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RE: Amber bottle with chain - 5/6/2005 7:48:19 PM   
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Here's an update on this bottle. It was sent to me by my friend and your's Michael Polak. His price listing in his books are a bit suspect but this is his opinion on the bottle;

Rich,

Sorry that I haven't answered you sooner but I've been in the middle of updating the bottle book to the 5th Edition and then a bunch of business travel-now I'm playing e-mail catch-up. This bottle is really interesting. I've seen these types of bottles before in Europe, specifically Spain, and your guesss was a good one. They were used by the church for holy water but also by the military as a first-aid water/medicine bottle. If you take a look at the chain, you'll notice that the design is a heavy Spanish style. I'm not sure why the bottle had the chain except to keep it from being taken since it was the property of the church or the government. I would guess the time frame would be even late 1700's to early 1800's. Value is tough but since it appears to be in good condition, I would estimate $1-2K.

Good Bottle Hunting,

Mike.

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RE: Amber bottle with chain - 5/6/2005 9:18:32 PM   
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Oh now let me think... Who was it that said Spanish? Someone did... Who was that?

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RE: Amber bottle with chain - 5/6/2005 10:28:10 PM   
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You da man Swede! What do you think about Mike's 1-2 thousand dollar estimate? Hmmmm by a lot o gumballs with that kind of cash.

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RE: Amber bottle with chain - 5/7/2005 10:57:41 AM   
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Wow, thanks so much for asking Mike Polak about this. If I decide to put this on ebay, would it be okay to quote from his response?

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RE: Amber bottle with chain - 5/7/2005 10:58:32 AM   
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You are just too smart. Guess we should have listened to you to begin with!

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RE: Amber bottle with chain - 5/7/2005 11:09:01 AM   
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Do you think the chain was so it could be worn while traveling outside the church area or for convenience/safe keeping if used during battle to give last rights? It would seem to be made the length to be worn around the neck and since it does not have a clasp it must have been intended to stay on the bottle. Just some thoughts. I'm always open to opinions. Thanks.


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Here's an update on this bottle. It was sent to me by my friend and your's Michael Polak. His price listing in his books are a bit suspect but this is his opinion on the bottle;

Rich,

Sorry that I haven't answered you sooner but I've been in the middle of updating the bottle book to the 5th Edition and then a bunch of business travel-now I'm playing e-mail catch-up. This bottle is really interesting. I've seen these types of bottles before in Europe, specifically Spain, and your guesss was a good one. They were used by the church for holy water but also by the military as a first-aid water/medicine bottle. If you take a look at the chain, you'll notice that the design is a heavy Spanish style. I'm not sure why the bottle had the chain except to keep it from being taken since it was the property of the church or the government. I would guess the time frame would be even late 1700's to early 1800's. Value is tough but since it appears to be in good condition, I would estimate $1-2K.

Good Bottle Hunting,

Mike.

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RE: Amber bottle with chain - 5/7/2005 5:10:16 PM   
bearswede


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Rich...

I'm not a fan of Mr. Polak's bottle guides... There's usually no reference in the text about bottles pictured on the page... Most bottles I try to look up, he does not list... I don't know exactly what that means, but practically speaking, I rarely ever use the two books of his I own... And the prices seem a bit out of whack at times...

If he's right about this bottle, it's a bit of a minor gold mine! Any corroberation available?

Ron

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