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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 7:42:15 AM   
riverdiver

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Surfaceone,

I did the only thing I knew to do after the recovery, I photographed it and took my info to the Lake Champlain Maritime Museum in Vergennes, VT. They told me how to best preserve it and gave me very specific instructions which I followed and although it is still rusty, it is fully dried out and well stored in a cool, dry environment.
I know a local gunsmith that specializes in restoration of old guns. I am going to have him restore it, mount it and I will present it to my dive partner at his Law Enforcement retirement party.

It is still one of the most awesome finds ever with an u/w metal detector!

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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 11:48:05 AM   
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Good for you, riverdiver. You're an honorable man. I would have also found a way to get that officer that gun.  ~Mike


AT LEAST...he has this picture to hold him till then!  What a great retirement gift...even better than a "watch"!!!

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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 2:04:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: riverdiver

I know a local gunsmith that specializes in restoration of old guns. I am going to have him restore it, mount it and I will present it to my dive partner at his Law Enforcement retirement party.

It is still one of the most awesome finds ever with an u/w metal detector!


Hello Matt,

This is such a great gift! He's gonna be so delighted. Did'ya give the gunsmith a sneak preview? If so, was he able to tell you anything about the rifle?

"Awesome," is the word!


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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 3:11:50 PM   
riverdiver

 

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Shortly after the conservation process ended, I took the rifle down to Manchester, NH to a Militaria Auction/Appraisal house and had them look it over. One of their employees used a solution on the breech area and was able to pull up an engraved name and set of numbers. Using their microfiche database they produced the name of a gunsmith from Boston who made primarily pistols and this was the gunsmiths first foray into an inexpensive hunting rifle for everyday use, kind of like the Mossbergs of today.
In the dug/ as is condition I brought to them, they valued it at $200.00. "IF" it was mint it could go for upwards of $1500.00, still not a bad find. The gunsmiths name is evading me and now that I have posted the (as found) photo it might be high time to take it down from the rafters and take some more photos and some close-ups too!

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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 3:54:20 PM   
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The gunsmiths name is evading me and now that I have posted the (as found) photo it might be high time to take it down from the rafters and take some more photos and some close-ups too!


Hey Matt,

Sounds like high time indeed. We'll stay tuned...


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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 6:05:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi judu,

I want to apologize for hijacking this thread...your gun find is awesome!

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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 7:41:22 PM   
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i have it soaking overnight so tommorow you might can see it a little better. i was thinking of where this gun has been and how it made its way to the city dump. i bet theres some really interesting history about this gun that i will never know.....


Yeah, Dan,

Me, too, but it sure has been fun...

Did'ya take it outta the secret sauce? Could'ya tell better what it was? Any found weapon has gotta instill that ole "I bet there's some story here..." feeling.


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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 7:42:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		hey river, i have enjoyed reading this thread now very much. i figure this is everyones thread, i just got it started. the gun you have found is very very cool and even cooler that your giving it back to the officer......i love hearing about underwater finds.

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RE: sweet gun - 2/10/2010 11:30:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		HEY SURFACE, I DID GET IT A LITTLE CLEANER. ILL POST A PICTURE FOR YOU IN A BIT....

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RE: sweet gun - 2/18/2010 11:25:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey juda and surfaceone,

I finally got around to some pictures of the rifle, the battery on my cam died before I got any shots of the butstock area, here are the rest, enjoy and thanks again judu for a great thread.




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RE: sweet gun - 2/18/2010 11:26:42 AM   
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RE: sweet gun - 2/18/2010 11:27:36 AM   
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RE: sweet gun - 2/18/2010 11:28:42 AM   
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RE: sweet gun - 2/18/2010 11:29:33 AM   
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RE: sweet gun - 2/18/2010 11:30:40 AM   
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RE: sweet gun - 2/18/2010 1:10:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		wow! ...thats incredible.i guess with it buried in the substate it was able to keep intact like that.really cool.

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RE: sweet gun - 2/21/2010 2:42:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Matt and Dan,

I kinda lost track of this thread. Matt, that is a fantastic find, plain and simple. Did your gunsmith have a date for that rifle? I'm assuming it is rifled, and is it a flintlock? I hope you can get a history of that colonial gunsmith. Amazing that it survived at all, phargin phenomenal that it is in such great shape. Was the bottom peat like, where he found it?


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RE: sweet gun - 2/21/2010 12:29:59 PM   
riverdiver

 

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The rifle is dated to 1850 and is a cap and ball percussion, it was recovered from a peat like bottom with a high tannic acid level and very low oxygen content thus preserving it.

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