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RE: First bottle out of the new tumbler... - 9/2/2009 10:10:14 AM    privvydigger Posts: 2597 Joined: 7/16/2006 From: Heart of the Coal Regions Status: offline I was told its to much copper, not enough water and also I checked with him again he said to much oxide/cutter.  Everytime I opened the tube and there was foam the bottle came out hazy.....I'm doing really well spinning them now....A good slurry is the key _____________________________ thx privvydigger gtr'dug Collector of all Coaldale & Lansford, And love digging Summit Hill, Mauch Chunk & Tamaqua, Pa. sodas, beers, milks..... (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 21

RE: First bottle out of the new tumbler... - 9/2/2009 2:28:20 PM    capsoda Posts: 9832 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline The agitation of the water and cutter/polisher used combined with the chemicals in your water would be my guess. The folks I know over in Pensacola get multicolored foam depending on which they use. I use deep well water and don't get much foam and what little foam I do get is a very light grayish color. Improper ratio of water to cutter/polish will cause excessive foam. It takes experimentation to get it right. < Message edited by capsoda -- 9/2/2009 2:30:59 PM > _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ http://www.bornagainamerican.org (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 22

RE: First bottle out of the new tumbler... - 9/2/2009 3:33:50 PM    privvydigger Posts: 2597 Joined: 7/16/2006 From: Heart of the Coal Regions Status: offline I agree less is more.  I have seen bottles at shows that have no scratch's or case wear.  Definately cut and polished.  I go for clean and sparkly and like to leave the character of the glass intact. the little scratchs and wear give the bottle character and tells of it life.  I have attic mint bottles and their sweet but there is a diference in my opinion  _____________________________ thx privvydigger gtr'dug Collector of all Coaldale & Lansford, And love digging Summit Hill, Mauch Chunk & Tamaqua, Pa. sodas, beers, milks..... (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 23

RE: First bottle out of the new tumbler... - 9/2/2009 8:38:09 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11432 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I only see foam using copper, havent seen it using glass beads. I think it may be reaction between the erroded copper and aluminum in the oxide. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to privvydigger) Post #: 24

RE: First bottle out of the new tumbler... - 9/2/2009 9:50:29 PM    Bottleman Posts: 936 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline For the first three years I had my tumbler I would hardly ever get foam. For the last two years though I always get it when I cut bottles but never when I polish them. I also have all separate canisters, copper and stoppers for both cutting and polishing. The majority of the time the foam will be dark grey but I have seen it bright orange to jet black. I still don’t really understand why I get it but it’s a pain to deal with. lol. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 25

RE: First bottle out of the new tumbler... - 9/3/2009 9:32:09 AM    bottlediger Posts: 2367 Joined: 2/19/2006 From: York Pa Status: offline Ive taken a bottle with no oxides or cutters and just filled it with water and copper and threw it on the tumbler high speed. Took it off a day or two later and guess what, dark sud muck water. Its the copper reacting with the minerals in the water. Digger Ry _____________________________ Professional Tumbling Services Digger Ry Style My Tumbling Page (in reply to Bottleman) Post #: 26

RE: First bottle out of the new tumbler... - 9/15/2009 6:57:21 AM    redbeardrelics   Posts: 96 Joined: 9/29/2006 Status: offline Hi folks, I agree that the eroding copper and polish residue creates some of the foam, but I believe the majority of it is the result of the sickness coming off the bottle, the small amounts of PVC coming off the inside of the tube, and the nylon, plastic, silicone, rubber, etc. coming off your stopples and 3 or 4 prong "fingers".  I have noticed considerably higher amounts of foam when tumbling very sick bottles, using new tubes or stopples, or using any cutter which will eat away at the inside of your tubes etc. more than the polish will. Of course if you are using any type of detergent/ SOS pads, etc to clean up and rinse off your bottles before loading them up for a spin, even the small amounts of detergent residue that make it's way into your tumbler, will increase your foaming action. Just my opinion for what it's worth. (in reply to bottlediger) Post #: 27

RE: First bottle out of the new tumbler... - 9/15/2009 7:13:42 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11432 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline quote: Its the copper definately has something to do with the copper, if i use glass beads I dont get foam. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to bottlediger) Post #: 28

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