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RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/9/2005 6:45:10 PM    jme_jett   Posts: 208 Joined: 6/7/2005 From: southern california Status: offline one more Attachment (1) _____________________________ jme (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 81

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/9/2005 9:18:09 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi jme- thanks for posting the bottle you dug and offering it to me. Thanks for posting the second picture with the Canada Dry embossing. I do have a few of those with labels. Thanks. I do want to say how important diggers like you are to the bottle collecting hobby. I've done as bit of digging and I know it's hard work and many times at the end of day- well- you find a few odds and ends, and sometimes not much at all. So thanks to you all you diggers out there! I've gotten some great bottles that would still be buried if it weren't for you guys. Here's a bottle I got from a digger in Minnesota. As you can see, it still needs to be cleaned. This one is from the late 1890s early 1900s. What I like is that it tells you where the bottling plant is- but not with an address. It just say "Opposite Post Office, MLPS" So who didn't know where the Post Office was in those days? MLPS stands for Minneapolis. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Ginger Ale collector -- 7/9/2005 9:22:20 PM > (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 82

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/9/2005 9:37:10 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Sam- great research on the Poland Springs label- I am sure you are right- it never went into production. Competition was so fierce in those days that bottlers sued other bottlers over all kinds of thing- from copyright violations to stealing bottles. Speaking of paper labels- here's one from 1880s from Boston- Green Seal Ginger Ale made with Cold Blast Distilled Water. Attachment (1) (in reply to Sam_MaineBottles) Post #: 83

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/9/2005 9:50:09 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi John- For our ACL friends in Canada- here is a selection of all-Canadian ginger ales- including one that says 'America Dry"! That one is embossed Orange Crush Limited on the bottom! Attachment (1) (in reply to bubbas dad) Post #: 84

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/9/2005 10:01:15 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Mike- funny you should mention doing a book on the history of ginger ale. . . I have been collecting historical information on ginger ale for quite a while (not to mention a bunch of bottles). I am planning to put it all together some day- but life's other priorities get in the way- you know, like work and family---- anyway in the meantime, bits and pieces will show up in the forum- and hopefully I will learn some new things about ginger ale or some of the companies that I can put into the book- thanks for the encouragement. (in reply to madman) Post #: 85

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/9/2005 10:32:37 PM    bubbas dad Posts: 1374 Joined: 3/30/2005 From: South Carolina, USA Status: offline GAC nice bottles. i have a bottle about the size of your artic ginger ale. it's a white eagle beverage bottle. i suspect it was a ginger ale and was wondering if you knew. thanks for the message the other day. _____________________________ john the older i get, the smarter my father gets! (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 86

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/10/2005 7:39:59 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi John- There are a number of White Eagle bottles around. There are some from Massachusetts and one from Baltimore and I'm sure some of the ACL experts can tell us more. The only one I have is from Baltimore and that says ginger ale on it. To keep costs down, many bottlers went to a single bottle design with just their name and logo and no mention of a flavor. What they did was to use the crown cap to let the customer (or the guy loading up the delivery truck) what flavor was what. Sometimes you'll see a bottle that will say "Flavor on crown". Your White Eagle might have had root beer, cherry cola, lemon lime, strawberry, lime rickey, sarsasparilla, and whatever else the bottler could sell in his neck of the woods. You'll see some familar names: Double Dry, Mission, Kist, Dr. Sweet's, Nesbitt's, Vess, and others. I threw in some others too- our old friend Caravan is there (that one is Golden Ginger Ale- photo not to good in that spot), and Sam's Mount Kineo (which matches the label in one his posts)- the Buffalo Rock, and John- you'll note on that one the South Carolina palm tree- which I think is what the state required on taxable items- Also for our friends down under I put in a couple of Aussie ones- Irish or Warith can you spot them? Attachment (1) (in reply to bubbas dad) Post #: 87

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/10/2005 9:35:31 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hello Irish- I finally got a reasonably picture of the Riley's Patent bottle from Ireland. It was hard to get a good photo of it with all the embossing- the company is Grattan of Belfast Ireland and they claim to be the original makers of ginger ale- but no one has ever offered any proof of that claim to be true. Grattan even embossed their bottles with those words! This bottle has the inside thread screw stopper known as Riley's Patent. Many English, Canadian, and Aussie bottles used this stopper. Grattan bottles are not that hard to find- either in a blobtop or the Riley's style. But what make this bottle interesting is that it is the only bottle that I've seen that mention's the patent. The embossing reads" EstD 1825, Original Makers of Ginger Ale --|-- Sole licensees Ulster for Riley's Patent Screw Stoppered Bottle". Are you familiar with a book by David Graci in the states about all the different kinds of patented closures for bottles? It is a great book. Complete with lots of photos. Tell him a "Ginger Ale Collector" sent you. Price per book is $35 plus $4 postage within the U.S. Inquire first on orders outside the U.S. Mail payment to David Graci, PO Box 726, South Hadley, MA 01075. Email: stonebotle@aol.com Attachment (1) (in reply to IRISH) Post #: 88

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/14/2005 8:08:18 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Sam- here's another couple of Maine soda bottles. I really like when the company went from paper labels to ACLs and tried to keep the design from the paper label- some were really good and others not so good. Attachment (1) (in reply to Sam_MaineBottles) Post #: 89

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/14/2005 8:12:58 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi John, Here's a ginger ale I'd like to know more about. Anyone from Texas out there that knows something about this one? This is one of those labels on an unembossed bottle that you wonder about- I've never seen another one- or even the label. And the bottle sure looks like a beer bottle. Attachment (1) (in reply to bubbas dad) Post #: 90

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/14/2005 9:02:09 PM    bubbas dad Posts: 1374 Joined: 3/30/2005 From: South Carolina, USA Status: offline i like the squat shape and the picture of the alamo. _____________________________ john the older i get, the smarter my father gets! (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 91

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/14/2005 10:13:18 PM    Sam_MaineBottles Posts: 371 Joined: 4/5/2004 From: Mid-coast Maine Status: offline Hi GAC - Nice Arctic Spring paper label, I haven't seen that one before. Here's a pic of two paper label ginger ales from Augusta, ME. The Glenwood company is pretty well-known but I haven't found any info on the Cushnoc Club. It has a foil wrapper around the neck and it appears to be from the late 1930s. -Sam Attachment (1) (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 92

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/14/2005 10:35:17 PM    flasherr Posts: 538 Joined: 5/7/2004 From: Abilene Texas Status: offline That texas bottle is sweet. Ive never seen it but i bet it would fetch a pretty penny if it was sold. Brian _____________________________ Know anyone around Abilene Texas that digs? (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 93

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/15/2005 5:53:53 AM    IRISH   Posts: 1238 Joined: 11/23/2002 From: cockatoo Australia Status: offline That Riley patent is nice G.A.C. I've seen a few with the patent details embossed, mostly English ones. I was unaware of the book by David Graci, thanks for the info the more info on patents the better in my opinion . Interesting that bottle with the address given by the post office, there is a codd from Melbourne with "near the GPO" on it (general post office), bit of an unusual statement on a bottle . (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 94

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/16/2005 8:05:34 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi flasherr- I have not clue what it would fetch- I'd just like to know more about it. Here's another Texas bottle (Dallas) that is interesting- at least I get a charge out of it. Anybody know anything about this ginger ale? Attachment (1) (in reply to flasherr) Post #: 95

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/16/2005 8:13:09 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Sam- I don't know anything about the Cushnoc either- mine is the same. Nice Glenwood- there are a few other labels- I've got one on a 6 oz amber bottle which I can't seem to find right now. Here's another Artic Spring, plus one from about 1900, the Augusta Soda Company- it is embossed on the reverse. This is one of the labels I mentioned earlier in the post that was engraved and printed by a banknote company. The detail is amazing. Attachment (1) (in reply to Sam_MaineBottles) Post #: 96

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/16/2005 8:20:17 PM    flasherr Posts: 538 Joined: 5/7/2004 From: Abilene Texas Status: offline sorry i dont know anythign about the other texas bottle. you have a nice collection of paper labels. are they all origional or have you mounted some of them on old bottles. Brian _____________________________ Know anyone around Abilene Texas that digs? (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 97

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/16/2005 8:39:05 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Brian- thanks- and that's a good question, no all are original to me- what I mean is that I've gotten them as is. The only time I might put a label on a bottle is if I have the bottle with a poor condition label and I find a much better label that's not on a bottle- I might take the lousy one off and upgrade the bottle to the better label. (in reply to flasherr) Post #: 98

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/19/2005 7:50:12 PM    Sam_MaineBottles Posts: 371 Joined: 4/5/2004 From: Mid-coast Maine Status: offline Hi GAC - That's interesting to know that the Augusta soda labels were made by a bank note company - they sure do have some great detail. That company went out of business in 1902. Here are a couple of labeled bottles I have from that outfit. -Sam Attachment (1) (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 99

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/19/2005 7:53:55 PM    Sam_MaineBottles Posts: 371 Joined: 4/5/2004 From: Mid-coast Maine Status: offline Here's another paper label I found in the Maine State Archives. I haven't seen this one on a bottle before. -Sam Attachment (1) (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 100

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