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RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/19/2005 10:58:32 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2478 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: online Wow, very nice bottles to all. This is the longest post I have seen (its already at 100 and thats almost half of the topics in this whole forum)and one of the best. Keep posting those Ginger ale bottles. < Message edited by Tony14 -- 7/19/2005 11:21:15 PM > (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 101

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/20/2005 8:22:15 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Tony- this has been fun- thanks for joining in- here's one for you from Wisconsin- a famous old company- Graf- maybe you know about it? The base is a "mug" style and it has their script logo embossed on the back as you can see. Attachment (1) (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 102

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/20/2005 8:32:19 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Sam- neat labels- I have to find my book of labels- I think I have some other odd Maine ones also. The Augusta Soda label was printed by the Brooks Bank Note Company, Springfield MA. There were a few other bank note printers doing soda labels, one was Boston Bank Note, Boston MA- I'll have to look for the others. In any case, you can usually spot one of these labels because of the detailed engraving. (in reply to Sam_MaineBottles) Post #: 103

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/20/2005 8:52:21 PM    Sam_MaineBottles Posts: 371 Joined: 4/5/2004 From: Mid-coast Maine Status: offline Here are two more Maine ginger ale paper label bottles from Highland Spring of Lewiston. There's some great detail on the bottle on the left but there was definitely some detail lost when they switched to full color. -Sam Attachment (1) (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 104

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/20/2005 10:16:44 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2478 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: online I believe I actually saw one of those on my last dig. It was an ACL, though. It might have been root beer. The whole neck was missing off of it. I actually think they are still in buisness today. I was drinking a can of grafs old fashioned root beer last week < Message edited by Tony14 -- 7/20/2005 10:19:39 PM > (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 105

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/25/2005 8:21:23 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi John, Here's another example of a company going from the paper label to the ACL. Berkley Springs was famous for their springwater up in the WVA mountains. A lot of the sodawater companies started out as springwater bottlers and when they started getting competition from the "city" bottlers for customers, they branched out into soda- figuring that soda made with their springwater had to be better than that made with city water. And a lot of customers agreed- so you'll see many bottler's names associated with "Springs" or Mineral Water. White Rock soda started out as White Rock Mineral Water Company. Lots of others too. Attachment (1) (in reply to Ginger Ale collector) Post #: 106

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/25/2005 10:03:25 PM    bubbas dad Posts: 1374 Joined: 3/30/2005 From: South Carolina, USA Status: offline i know that ginger ale was bottled in all sorts of bottles, but do you think there was a reason that a large amount of them were in green bottles? _____________________________ john the older i get, the smarter my father gets! (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 107

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/27/2005 8:26:14 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Good question John- and I'm not sure it has only one answer. It may have had to do with what color glass was the easiest and cheapest to make. It also may have been because the color of ginger ale varied considerably and the green glass hid that the variation from the consumer. I haven't seen any real evidence on the reason why so many bottlers used green glass, but I suspect it was manufacturing costs, especially from the 20s through the early 40s. The unembossed paper label bottles were probably considered "throw-aways". There was a time when amber or brown glass bottles were popular because someone had the notion that the amber glass blocked the sunlight's ultraviolet rays from harming the contents. I believe this started with milk bottles- it wasn't too long before the research guys tested the theory and found that amber glass did nothing to protect the milk from sunlight. (in reply to bubbas dad) Post #: 108

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/28/2005 6:25:35 PM    TheDiggerBoy91   Posts: 609 Joined: 10/11/2004 Status: offline Man you gus are lucky!! I only have 2 ginger ales- both are Vernor's. One is an ACL from 1961 and the other is a big on from the 1910's-20's in poor condition. (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 109

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/28/2005 8:12:55 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi DiggerBoy, I suppose some of it is luck- but I've got a lot of ginger ale bottles for two reasons. . . first, that is all I have collected for the last 18 years, and second, it's been a lot of searching in a lot of places- including over 50 bottle shows, countless fleamarkets, junkshops, antique shops, dumps, privies, and good friends who found great bottles for me. The best part is the friends. I can look at my shelves and I know which ones came from collectors I've known for years. So, you've got two ginger ales. That's a start - and Vernor's is a great place to start. James Vernor was a pioneer in making ginger ale, starting about 1866 as the story goes, as a druggist in Detroit. Vernor's, C & C, and Dr. Brown's brand ginger ale all have been around since about the same time, and are still sold today. So your Vernors bottles are part of the long history of soda and ginger ale! There are a lot of ginger ale bottles out there- once you start looking! (in reply to TheDiggerBoy91) Post #: 110

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/29/2005 11:26:40 PM    IRISH   Posts: 1238 Joined: 11/23/2002 From: cockatoo Australia Status: offline Hey GAC, Have you seen this crown cap before ? it belongs to a friend of mine, I noticed it sitting in Robins bottle display with quite a few lemonade caps from around Victoria and NSW. He has a spare one too apparently , send me a PM if you want one. Attachment (1) (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 111

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/29/2005 11:29:38 PM    IRISH   Posts: 1238 Joined: 11/23/2002 From: cockatoo Australia Status: offline Cooma is in New South Wales. I have no idea how old it is nor anything about the company that used these caps but it's a nice mint one. Cork inside, it has never been used. Attachment (1) (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 112

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/31/2005 8:26:29 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hello Irish, Yes I think I have that crown cap- thanks. And for all you folks not from down under, most of the Aussie crown caps have the words "Preservative added" as do many of the soda bottles. I'm assuming that is by regulation . . . here's an Aussie ACL from Tooth & Company, Sydney. The crown cap has the blue bow on it as well- Attachment (1) (in reply to IRISH) Post #: 113

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 7/31/2005 8:52:33 PM    TheDiggerBoy91   Posts: 609 Joined: 10/11/2004 Status: offline Man you guys are lucky. I only have 2 ginger ale bottles. A Vernors ACL from 1961 and a 10's-20's quart Vernors in poor shape. I'm jealous!! (in reply to jme_jett) Post #: 114

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 8/3/2005 12:14:54 PM    Ye Olde Prospector   Posts: 614 Joined: 1/23/2005 From: Bath, Maine Status: offline Hi Ginger Ale Collector, I noticed in one of your posts you mentioned a Dr Brown's brand Ginger ale from about 1866. I posted this photo of a teal, iron pontilled bottle that a friend wanted me to find info on. It is embossed Dr Brown, NY and most said it was a mineral water bottle. The 1866 date you mentioned would be about right for an iron pontil so just wondered if this might actually be one of Dr Browns ginger ale bottles. It was found at my friends old house in MA. Thanks. Cliff Attachment (1) (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 115

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 8/3/2005 10:16:35 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Cliff, Hard to say exactly what that bottle had in it. I'll have to ask some of my NYC soda experts what they think, but the history of one Dr. Brown in New York goes like this: In 1869, (a little later than Vernor's 1866) a Dr. Brown treated the children of immigrants on Manhattan’s Lower East Side and created a soft drink he called Dr. Brown’s Cel-Ray Tonic. The beverage, which was made from seltzer, celery seeds, and sugar, was sold in delicatessens and is still made today. Dr. Brown also did ginger ale, cream soda, and fruit flavors later on. Now it is possible that there could have been more than one Dr. Brown, and perhaps even earlier. I have a stoneware bottle debossed Dr. Brown's Ginger Pop and based on the look of it, could be from the late 1840s when Ginger Pop was around. It could be the same Brown and maybe not. I will say that your friend's beautiful bottle might have had ginger ale in it at one time as most soda bottlers were trying to copy the Irish ginger ales, but a strong possibility is mineral water. Let me get a note off to some folks who have more facts on Dr. Brown bottles than I do. It is a great bottle and certainly worth a lot if it is in the pristine condition that it looks in the picture. More when I get a chance. (in reply to Ye Olde Prospector) Post #: 116

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 8/10/2005 8:54:04 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Here are the pair of Dr. Brown's I have- but they are probably 100+ years apart. You'll see Since 1869 on the paper label, but the stoneware piece cold be 1850s or even much earlier. The stoneware says "Ginger Pop" which was noted to be around in the 1840s. Different than ginger ale proper though. Attachment (1) (in reply to Ye Olde Prospector) Post #: 117

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 8/15/2005 6:35:56 PM    BARQS19   Posts: 433 Joined: 6/4/2004 From: Brooklyn, Mississippi Status: offline Hi I just saw where you were collecting these. I just listed on on ebay though before I saw this post. if you want to check it out here is the item number and title RARE WOLVERINE GINGER ALE BOTTLE DETROIT, MICHIGAN MI (6201458787) thanks, Robert BARQS19 (in reply to Ginger Ale collector) Post #: 118

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 8/15/2005 7:41:35 PM    Ginger Ale collector   Posts: 112 Joined: 6/16/2005 Status: offline Hi Robert, Thanks for the tip- I do have that Wolverine- great bottle- very atttractive embossing. I see you are in Mississippi- I thought for a minute and wondered if I had a ginger ale bottle from your state- and after checking my list- I don't! Do you know of any? Thanks. (in reply to BARQS19) Post #: 119

RE: Ginger Ale Bottles wanted - 8/16/2005 5:13:35 AM    IRISH   Posts: 1238 Joined: 11/23/2002 From: cockatoo Australia Status: offline Hi GAC, Do you have a 13 ounce crown seal with "F. DANIELS / DROUIN" in a shield and "GINGER ALE" below that ? there is a bit more text in the shield but I can't remember what. The Daniels crown seal is fairly common without the extra text but until I saw one in a collection last week I can't remember one with ginger ale on it. (in reply to Tony14) Post #: 120

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