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RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 1:06:30 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1704 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Almost all the ground lip examples have some chipping from manufacture . And a lot of the rolled lip examples have chipping .... especially on the inside. It is quite common on the rolled lips ..... people chipped them when prying the corks out. Perfect rolled lips are highly sought after. Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly My Brothers car in action . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWDd0TBWItc Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 21

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 1:07:47 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline At the time I was offered the chipped lip Queen for $70.00 I didn't know how common the problem was. This was back in the late 1980's. (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 22

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 1:14:16 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1704 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline That would probably be a deal now.....depending how bad the chipping was. I saw a Queen on ebay awhile back with the whole breast section missing..... I didn't see what it went for....but it did have bids on it ! Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly My Brothers car in action . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWDd0TBWItc Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 23

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 1:16:57 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline Isn't it strange how the Hobby has changed? I recall when even a chiggerbite was enough to lose a sale...now, peeps buy chipped examples, cracked examples.etc...(even I keep a damaged specimen until I can upgrade). (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 24

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 1:23:06 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1704 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Charlie , I try not to buy damaged stuff unless it's really rare ..... and like you I try to upgrade it. Some bottles are almost impossible to upgrade because of their rarity. I saw Ed Herrold buy just a top half and one side intact Stonewall Jackson Bitters one time. I couldn't figure out why he did...... Well , I know now....I have never seen another example , not even fragments. Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly My Brothers car in action . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWDd0TBWItc Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 25

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 1:28:05 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline I once sold on Ebay a Welch W.VA straight sided Coca Cola with the entire crown broken off for over $100.00...seems it was one scarce rascal. I just got booted off here...seems to happen irregularly too. < Message edited by whiskeyman -- 7/18/2005 1:30:37 AM > (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 26

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 1:28:48 AM    Flaschenjager   Posts: 794 Joined: 12/21/2002 Status: offline Great info. and thread everyone Thanks for the schoolin' - wish we had talked more about these six months or so ago. The one I forgot to bid on only went for under $40 because of a bad listing. There have been many of these types of auctions I've let go and forgot to bid on. Speaking for myself, I'd say it is a pretty good, as far as desirable, reproduction. I did see a few others listed or that had sold then and most were over $100. I just looked for some I had bookmarked and can't find them right now. _____________________________ 'M' (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 27

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 1:32:08 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline MEECH...good ta seeya. Yes, discussions like this are quite informative...we should work on having more of them. (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 28

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/18/2005 2:00:16 AM    Flaschenjager   Posts: 794 Joined: 12/21/2002 Status: offline Whiskey - I see (from the other board) your puter is working okay for the moment. There's always something to learn, I feel. Really, I haven't been doing this (bottles) forever and think of myself as a beginner at times, but I'm catching up very fast by edumacating meself on this vast subject on a daily basis (w/ many hrs. daily). I have no idea how the collectors have gone through their collecting days without a PC and some don't even have good books. Even w/ a PC and tons of books, I'd say the best way to learn bottles the best is talk to others in the hobby and the all important one, digging as much as you can. Not only dig a lot, but dig different areas, cities, etc. and you'll dig different bottles. Another way I've learned a lot lately is by buying some good glass. I was always one of those diggers that said "All of my bottles I've dug myself". That's a good way to miss out on some glass you'd maybe normally wouldn't dig. Researching something that you want to buy, at least for me, usually turns up something to learn. Sorry for the ramble, kinda late. _____________________________ 'M' (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 29

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 12:18:43 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline Ut oh...looks like we have another "variant." http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6195690948&category=890&rd=1 Attachment (1) < Message edited by whiskeyman -- 7/23/2005 12:20:14 AM > (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 30

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 12:21:05 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline profile...this Queen looks kinda "stunted." Attachment (1) (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 31

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 12:22:27 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline backside.. Attachment (1) (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 32

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 12:36:57 AM    Bottleman Posts: 935 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline I do agree with you Brian when you say they are very fragile and thin! My good friend just sold one on eBay that he dug with the breasts knocked out. Because of money reasons he had to sell it but for the longest time he called it “princess no ****”. Another friend of mine has one in his collection that has a big hole in the back that he dug too. I am still waiting to dig mine weather it is damaged or not! ~~Tom (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 33

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 12:44:12 AM    Bottleman Posts: 935 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline Sorry, I didn’t realize that there was a second page and you already mentioned this damaged Queen on eBay. (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 34

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 12:47:22 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1704 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Hey bottleman ! Was his name dabitterinn ??? I can't remember who had that princess notits on . Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly My Brothers car in action . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWDd0TBWItc Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 35

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 12:48:45 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1704 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Yeah Charlie , I have seen alot of the midget Queens on ..... in an assortment of colors . Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly My Brothers car in action . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWDd0TBWItc Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 36

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 12:50:25 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline BRIAN...How recent are the "midgets?" BOTTLEMAN...thanks for the input. (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 37

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 1:17:59 AM    Bottleman Posts: 935 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline No, his user name is barbchuck17901. Dabitterinn did bid on it though. Can you believe it brought $67 in its poor condition???? Here is a link to the auction… Damaged Indian Queen Bitters < Message edited by Bottleman -- 7/23/2005 1:20:05 AM > (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 38

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 9:05:41 AM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1704 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Charlie .... I don't really have any info on these . I don't believe however they are as early as the other Repro Queens discussed in an earlier post. I have seen many of these over the years on ebay ..... many more than the other type Repro. Bottleman ..... I must have seen dabitterin as a bidder on the princess. I remember the description and I got a kick out of it ! Yeah , 76.00 isn't bad.....Queens are very desirable. And one of my favorites of all the figural Bitters. Brian _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly My Brothers car in action . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWDd0TBWItc Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 39

RE: Indian Queen Bitters ??? - 7/23/2005 2:09:59 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline hey...just found this headless and legless " boob" bottle on Ebay...LOL Attachment (1) (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 40

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