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RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/17/2010 10:25:55 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline Here's what Wilshire Boulevard looks like today ... Which is a lot different than that old barely field of the 1890s. SPB Attachment (1) (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 21

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/17/2010 10:26:38 PM    TheCaliKid   Posts: 260 Joined: 6/8/2010 From: Calistan Status: offline Wow, that is in excellent condition! I hope to find one too, but are you trying to kill me sending me out this time of year? Funny thing too, my dad was born in 1952 (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 22

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/17/2010 10:32:17 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline Dear son ... er, I mean "Kid" I don't care where you go, what you do, or with who ... just as long as you clean your room first!   Lol   SODA "POP" BOB (in reply to TheCaliKid) Post #: 23

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 2:05:10 AM    TheCaliKid   Posts: 260 Joined: 6/8/2010 From: Calistan Status: offline Alright "Dad", that's quite enough.........listen up, I may be going bottle hunting sooner than I thought. Then I will have pictures to add to this thread.  (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 24

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 12:05:58 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline                  Here's one of my favorite "Ghost Town" soda bottles, and the story about finding it.                                                                (Four pages total)                                        The bottle itself is embossed, (6 paneled)  and reads ...                SouthWestern/Coca Cola/Bottling Co./New Mexico/Arizona/Contents 6 1/2 Fl. Oz.                It was made by ... P C in a triangle .......... Pacific Coast Glass Works (1902-1925) I found it in an old dump just north of Oatman, Arizona, which is located in western Arizona on old Route 66. Oatman was in it's hayday between 1915 (when gold was first discovered) and 1924, (when things fizzled out). The actual construction of Route 66 didn't begin until 1926. By then Oatman was all but forgotten, except for being a small, deserted town on the route between Santa Monica, California to the west, and Chicago, Illinois to the east. Oatman has a colorful history, with one of it's favorite stories about Clark Gable and Carole Lombard, who were married in Kingman, AZ in 1939, and drove through part of the night and honeymooned at the now famous Oatman Hotel, which supposedly is also haunted now by the ghost of an old miner they call "Oatie." Oatman was bypassed by a new highway alignment in 1953, causing the already sleepy town to become the tourist ghost town it is today, with a population of 100 people, and a population of several dozen wild burros.  I have been through the area several times, as it makes a perfect four day round-trip getaway from San Diego to Las Vegas to the Hoover dam to Kingman to Oatman and back home again. Along the way I check out likely places for old bottles, which put me onto the old dump near Oatman where I found the bottle shown below. I also found an old, rusty sign that I will talk a little more about on one of the pages to follow. SPB                                  Based on my research ... I am dating this bottle circa 1918     Attachment (1) (in reply to TheCaliKid) Post #: 25

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 12:07:52 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline Here's what Oatman looke like in the 1920s ... From an old postcard. Attachment (1) (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 26

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 12:11:43 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline             Here's the old sign I found. It's in pretty rough shape, but you can still read the wording ...                                                 Wal-A-Pai Auto Court     Kingman                              It's likely from the 1920s , with the arrow pointing the way. Attachment (1) (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 27

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 12:15:54 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline And lastly here's a closeup of an old postcard showing the Wal-A-Pai Auto Court (Motel) in the 1950s.  Two years ago I went through the area and someone told me they were getting ready to tear down the long abandoned motel that had been neglected for years. Bummer! Attachment (1) (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 28

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 12:30:26 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline A final note of interest : It is said that Clark Gable liked the town of Oatman and it's people so much that he would ocassionally drive out there from Hollywood just to play poker and get drunk with some of the oldtime miners that still lived there from the old days. In case you didn't know it, Clark Gable was a root'n toot'n, drinking - smoking - cussing, poker playing "roudy" from way back. To this day he is still one of my favorite actors. SPB  (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 29

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 1:11:51 PM    TheCaliKid   Posts: 260 Joined: 6/8/2010 From: Calistan Status: offline The Misfits is one of my favorite films..........and it takes place in Nevada. (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 30

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 1:40:25 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline Right on, Kid! ~ It's one of my favorites too. I guess we're just a couple of "misfits" ourselves. By the way, "The Misfits" was Clark Gable and Marilyn Monroe's very last film, ever. It was released in 1961. Gable was born in 1901 and died in 1962. Monroe was born in 1926 and died in 1962. One of my favorite scenes is where Marilyn Monroe is in a bar and plays with the "Stretchy-ball & paddle" toy. Classic! And just to keep this on topic, there's also a scene of her drinking a bottle of Coca Cola.  Lol     Please note :  As I said in the beginning, "anything goes" with this thread, and hope no one objects. Thanks to all ... SPB    Attachment (1) (in reply to TheCaliKid) Post #: 31

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 2:21:06 PM    TheCaliKid   Posts: 260 Joined: 6/8/2010 From: Calistan Status: offline Yes, I don't want to invoke too much "topic drift", but I have to add a little bit here. One of my favorite parts of the movie is to see the characters paying for their drinks with silver dollar coins.......REAL money. A bygone era, that's for sure. Simpler times, before everything and everyone in our society became hyper-politicized. The supporting cast in the film is awesome as well. Alright, I'm off to go hunting for bottles on the 33  (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 32

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 2:34:48 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline CaliKid ~ No problem'o ... Good luck on your hunt today. Hopefully you will find something of interest. And don't pass up those "no deposit no return" bottles either. Some are rare and valuable ... and you just never know what you might find ... Like this image of Marilyn Monroe drinking a bottle of Coca Cola, which will tie in and conclude this off-beat segment for today. SPB   Attachment (1) (in reply to TheCaliKid) Post #: 33

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/18/2010 2:42:27 PM    TheCaliKid   Posts: 260 Joined: 6/8/2010 From: Calistan Status: offline Now you tell me! I passed up a few of those on the last hunt. Arrggh. Anyways, I'm off. Will post pics if it's worth posting pics. (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 34

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/19/2010 12:25:54 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline About five miles from where I grew up in east San Diego county is the abandoned ruins of what used to be a thriving business. It was called the "Buckman Springs Lithia Water" bottling plant and resort. (The following attachment will highlight it's history). However; on the second page it indicates that the enterprise was revived in 1940. This date is incorrect and something I have looked into and tried to correct without success. My father moved into the area in 1939, and he is 100% certain that the old lithia plant was in ruins at that time, and has no memory of it ever being in operation. No one seems to care much about all of this now as it is just another lost page in a history book that few are interested in reading these days. Except for me that is ... I have been digging around that old place off and on for the past thirty years, and to date have only found about six bottles worth keeping, with every one of those having a chip in it. Most of what can be found are busted off at the neck , or worse. Apparently the only ones ever disgarded were these broken and chipped ones that were no longer of use. But if I were to gather up every single one of the broken bottles, I expect it would total in the hundreds. Of course, it took my "gopher-like" talents just to find they few "keepers" that I do have. And as for it being a "Resort," well, maybe. But it was (and still is) a cold water spring, and although people may have been interested in drinking it, the real reason it likely failed is because you couldn't "sit" in it. Hot springs were the rage back then and still are today. But drinking that nasty stuff would take more nerve than I have. I know where there is still a little trickle of the original spring, and although I have tasted a drop or two of it, you couldn't pay me to drink an entire bottle. The stuff I'm talking about is basically a laxative, and not fit for human comsumption. But as the following article mentions, it was great for overheated car radiators.  Lol  SPB I have been trying to get my hands on one of the original labels shown below, but the only ones I know of are in a local museum (about 50 of them) but so far have not been allowed to purchase one. Article ... (Page one of two).       Attachment (1) (in reply to TheCaliKid) Post #: 35

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/19/2010 12:27:18 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline Page Two ... Attachment (1) (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 36

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/19/2010 12:28:56 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline Another old photo of the inside of the plant ... Attachment (1) (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 37

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/19/2010 12:30:18 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline How the plant looks today ... Attachment (1) (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 38

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/19/2010 12:32:30 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline My best "Buckman Springs Lithia Water" bottle ever found ... and even this one has a chip on the back side of the lip. Attachment (1) (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 39

RE: OUT WEST SODA BOTTLES (Primarily ACLs) - 6/19/2010 12:47:03 PM    SODAPOPBOB   Posts: 3674 Joined: 3/10/2010 Status: offline I forgot to mention before the edit feature disappeared that my particular bottle may be one of the later variations of the "California Club" brand that came out in later years. I have never seen what that label looked like, so I'm not entirely sure. Of course, my bottle is a crown-top, and likely dates in the teens. SPB  (in reply to SODAPOPBOB) Post #: 40

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