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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 10/20/2010 1:02:56 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Hi Mary, I sent you an email this morning.Great looking bottle you have there. _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to MarBen) Post #: 21

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 10/20/2010 2:30:55 PM    westernbittersnut   Posts: 137 Joined: 3/25/2008 Status: offline I collect high end western bitters and I have seen 2 of the Old Cabin Bitters bottles in collections out here in California. (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 22

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 10/20/2010 11:18:15 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline They are great bottles Warren if you dont have one. I believe the one being asked about may go for sale.They are super nice people and their father had found 8 of these in Illinois as Mary stated!! As I thought about that more today it may have been one of the most incredible bottle/dig finds ever.Imagine finding one cabin bitters let alone 8!!Mind boggling. _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to westernbittersnut) Post #: 23

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 10/21/2010 8:03:13 PM    wolffbp   Posts: 250 Joined: 7/28/2009 From: Central NY Status: offline Wow, it wasn't even a cork top Bromo. That's cold. but funny (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 24

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 10/22/2010 3:58:23 AM    glass man Posts: 7732 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: offline ALL I WANT STEVE MAN IS A INDIAN QUEEN...THING IS I ALREADY GOT ONE IN NINA GIRL MY SCOTTISH JEWISH CHOCTOW INDIAN QUEEN! _____________________________ LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED ! IF YOU NEED A BLESSING OR A SONG THAT WILL PICK YOU UP PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS SONG FROM"VAN THE MAN"MORRISON! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi4R2YXv_AE (in reply to wolffbp) Post #: 25

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/14/2011 9:48:07 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I picked up this very rare bitters this evening from eBay.I am looking for a good glass repair person to fix a large chipped area on the lip.If anyone knows someone personally or coiuld recommend someone they heard has a good reputation please let me know as it would be very much appreciated.It looks good from this angle........................ Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to glass man) Post #: 26

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/14/2011 9:49:37 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline ..........................but from over here..........OUCH!!! Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 27

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/14/2011 9:50:41 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The glass is clean. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 28

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/14/2011 9:55:24 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline The bottle was found in a saloon wall according to the seller so it supposedly was never buried.Also the seller said someone had dropped this in the 1970s,had they not dropped this it woiuld have been a 12 to 20,000 dollar bottle easily.These are much more rare then the Kellys bitters which are identicle. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 29

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/25/2011 3:22:02 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Now that I have two Old Cabin Bitters bottles I compared the two bottles side by side.On my first bottle on one of the larger lower paper panel areas there were raised blotches that almost looked like hives not bubbles.Well when this second bottle arrived it had the same markings in the same spot so this defect is a mold issue present exactly the same on each bottle.I had originaly thought it was just on this one bottle cold mold ripple effect.The Cabin is slightly racked to one side also on each bottle telling me again this is a mold issue and not a quality control one. I have studied the Kellys Old Cabin bitters compared to the Old Cabin Bitters and I can assure you they are in fact although strikingly similar to very different bottles in a lot of small details.The lettering on the Kellys is larger and cruder,the word PATENT in the angle of the roof peak is laid out differently on each bottle.When I had originally aquired the Kellys and then the Old Cabin I had thought that simply a slug plate change had occured and that was the difference.This is not true as the Letters on each bottle are completely diffrent from each other.The log sizes and fine detail are different on each bottle also. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 30

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/25/2011 3:23:09 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Outlined in blue are the two areas on each bottle. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 31

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/26/2011 8:00:41 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Here is a group shot left to right. Left- The Kellys Old Cabin Bitters,Center- Darker Old Cabin Bitters,Right- Lighter Old Cabin Bitters. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 32

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/26/2011 8:33:33 AM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I love the Booz bottles but I have got to hand it to the mold maker on these exquisite detail in the logs.I give the nod to the Booz bottle on the shingled roof though.Imagine if the Old Cabin Bottles had the shingled roof like the Booz bottle,and the other way around imagine the Booz bottle with log detail like the Old Cabin Bottles.Later today or tommorrow I will add more detail about how I know that the Old Cabin Bitters and the Kellys Bitters used two completely different molds in their manufacture.It has been suggested that the use of a slug plate switch was all that was needed to go from the Kellys to the Old Cabin.There are at least 15 differences between the bottles some glaring others minute. _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 33

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:46:40 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline I have posted this same bottle in the New to my collection area of the forum earlier today.Ijust received my latest Log cabin bitters bottle.This on is in a rare color as it is mostly a golden Olive  yellow amber color, with light amber and a little orange amber mixed into the areas that are usually thicker on the bottle.This bottle is 90 percent of the time in various shades of darker amber.This bottle has one semi major area of damage which is an inch and a half inch long but very thin and hardly noticeable crack on the lower roof area.An in the making V shaped area very tiny on the lip and some hazing and clouding slightly on the inside.There are also some scratches but that is it. These bottles are rare in any color but are listed as extremely rare in colors other then amber including the color on this bottle.Carlyn and Ring list it as scarce in amber and very rare in the following colors,Yellow,Yellow Olive,Yellow Green, and Deep Olive Green.I have two of these Kellys Old Cabin Bitters now and I think I am going to attempt my first color run in my collection. Attachment (1) < Message edited by Steve/sewell -- 3/28/2011 6:50:36 PM > _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 34

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:47:02 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 2. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 35

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:47:28 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 3. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 36

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:47:49 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 4. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 37

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:48:14 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 5. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 38

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:51:02 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 6. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 39

RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:51:29 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline 7. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 40

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