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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:51:48 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:52:50 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:53:13 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:53:41 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:53:58 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:54:22 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 6:56:40 PM   
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15.Here is a side by side comparison of the Kellys Old Cabin Bitters On the left and the Old Cabin bitters on the right.There are quite a few differences in the bottles when viewed cautiously.




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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/28/2011 7:06:50 PM   
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Looking down at the two bottles you can see the Old Cabin bitters on the right is slightly wider then the Kellys.




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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/29/2011 3:23:53 PM   
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17.I took some more pictures in the sun a bit ago.This bottle is really yellow in the corners of the cabin and the roof.




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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/29/2011 3:25:15 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/29/2011 3:25:43 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/29/2011 3:26:09 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/29/2011 3:27:14 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/29/2011 3:27:49 PM   
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RE: ULYSSES S. GRANT and the KELLY'S and THE OLD CABIN ... - 3/31/2011 6:57:27 PM   
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The Kellys Old Cabin Bitters bottles I have now determined were made in at least 3 different molds.There are two 1863 versions and one 1870 version now deffinatley accounted for.The embossing on the roofs of the two 1863 versions are completley different,with one version having large sharp somwwhat straight lettering while the other has various sized letters and they are layed out very crooked.It can also be easily seen when comparing the two bottles that one of the Kellys molds has larger logs and is taller to the roof line.The roof is another area that the two Kellys molds differ.One is wider, one is steeper,and one is pointier at the highest point across the ridge of the roof.More then likley the 1870 version had it's own mold also.Here is something to think about,I think the Kellys mold was plagerised and that is why John Garnhart applied for and recieved a patent on the cabin Design in 1870.It is very likely that some of the Kellys were being copied back east were they were made before being shipped to St. Louis.A skilled mold maker could easily copy this bottle.

The Old Cabin Bitters on the other hand used an identicle mold as there are no diffrences between the two bottles.On these bottles better attention to detail was paid because everything about the bottle is a cut above the Kellys.The Embossing is neat and Symetricle,The applied tops are neatly laid on,and the glass in general is heavier then the Kellys.both the Kellys Old Cabin Bitters and the Old Cabin Bitters were made using a tredle mold.Although much Rarer then the Kellys in total numbers accounted for the Old Cabin Bitters were only available in Various shades of amber.The Kellys was made in more vibrant colors making it a an attractive bottle to collect.All in all these are great bottles and I wish others would post their bottles if they are members here.I would love to see them. I will post pictures later this week or during the weekend showing the differences between the two molds.

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