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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/12/2011 7:33:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Those are awesome! Is the clear one with the thin flared (2nd from the left) lip US made???

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/12/2011 8:04:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		The early headless one is the same as the one in my chart I suspected was the oldest.The picture of the one I used in my chart was found at the Wyck residence in Philadelphia .Here are some links to the web pages of Stenton.

http://stenton.org/index.php/history-collections-and-interpretation/the-ins-and-outs-of-the-stenton-collection/

http://stenton.org/index.php/history-collections-and-interpretation/archaeological-explorations-at-stenton/

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/12/2011 8:37:40 PM   
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The early headless one is the same as the one in my chart I suspected was the oldest.


So I'm a touch confused,...I see now, it was the same as the one you showed earlier in the thread Steve...So is the 1750 one the oldest one known so far?

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/12/2011 8:40:46 PM   
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Status: online 		The 1750 and 51 are the same shape. There is suppose to be older ones than that and Walter is searching for one.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/13/2011 5:32:36 PM   
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Those are awesome! Is the clear one with the thin flared (2nd from the left) lip US made???



They all have english type pontils, but could have easily been early america made with english techniques.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/13/2011 8:00:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I'm not mistaken there is either one that dates around 1742 or 45 something like that that is actually rectangular in shape. That is believed to be his first bottle.

The picture of the 4 flint glass ones Roy posted look like the kind I have seen in 1770s-1780s privies.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/13/2011 8:17:00 PM   
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Status: online 		Walter sent me a picture of a copy of a Turlington 1880 Broadside. It has a copy of Turlingtons Signature as opposed to the originals that were actually signed. The bottles would have been wrapped in this. I can email copies you can read if anyone is interested. Walter emailed me large copies.




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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/13/2011 8:17:38 PM   
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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/13/2011 10:32:04 PM   
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send me an email with the readable file.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/13/2011 11:35:55 PM   
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Status: online 		Rory,...p.m ed you with my e mail, but my pm's have been inconsistent. Just in case you didn't get it please let me know,...I'd love to have a copy of the broadside. Thank you.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/14/2011 5:58:11 AM   
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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/14/2011 6:02:10 AM   
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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/14/2011 7:51:51 AM   
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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/14/2011 11:13:46 AM   
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That would be the one I was thinking of. I have seen that picture before.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/14/2011 11:49:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good information everyone.Finally some good early glass chat back and fourth.It took a second British invasion by the fab 2 to acheive this,thanks Jerry and Mark you guys are a very good addition to this forum.Rory could you send me the file of the broadside also. Thanks Steve.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/14/2011 12:26:35 PM   
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Baltbottles......that would be this one you are looking for then...?


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Question.... That bottle is ancient, by american standards....Isn't that way early for embossing on a bottle? Or were English counterparts embossed regularly by then? (It IS english, right?) Very cool.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/15/2011 6:23:53 AM   
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Baltbottles......that would be this one you are looking for then...?


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Question.... That bottle is ancient, by american standards....Isn't that way early for embossing on a bottle? Or were English counterparts embossed regularly by then? (It IS english, right?) Very cool.

I think that Jerry will agree with me that 1740's IS about as early as mold making and therefore embossing  goes....certainly it was common enough by 1750's. There is for instance a 1752 newspaper paragraph referring to "one Brass Bottle-Mould value 18s..,the property of Mr Thomas Warren & Co.,(stolen) from the Glasshouse in Temple street" Thomas Warren was a successful perfumer/chemist and has a number of early bottles in his name.But yes, I would say that the Turlington example above is probably one of the earliest. Turlington was obviously a far sighted guy, quick to spot the marketing benefits of any new process and undoubtedly one of the first to use the new embossing technique as it became available, initially with a relatively plain shape bottle, but then taking it to further extremes with the eyecatching and in particular the memorable and distinctive cello shaped bottle just a few years later. Remember that few could read at this date so his medicine would have stood out amongst the plain practical shapes of the competition. Also, we do not go back much further to see advertisements for medicines illustrating plainly freeblown phials and similar shapes, obviously not embossed. One example I'll look out being 1727, obviously standard practice for the period.
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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/15/2011 7:55:37 AM   
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I think that Jerry will agree with me that 1740's IS about as early as mold making and therefore embossing goes
Molds have been used much longer than that. There are examples of Roman mold blown glass as early as 1'st century and probably earlier, if not Roman, another culture. It may not have been a common practice but was possible. 

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/15/2011 8:01:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		...just abit of fun, here's one I have with "snake oil" contents..obviously re-used

for those that can't quite see, that's a rattlesnake rattle floating near the top, and a claw at the bottom.
When it gets cold the oil in there coagulates into creamy blobs. I think it is fairly original, at least I paid no more for it than any bog standard non pontilled late American Turlington, so nobody made any money by doing it. It's proper old pack thread and genuine buckskin on top.
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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/15/2011 8:16:06 AM   
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I think that Jerry will agree with me that 1740's IS about as early as mold making and therefore embossing goes
Molds have been used much longer than that. There are examples of Roman mold blown glass as early as 1'st century and probably earlier, if not Roman, another culture. It may not have been a common practice but was possible. 


...yes of course, but like I mentioned on one of my posts, stuff came round in cycles, materials and methods got invented, used, forgotten about and re-invented again. Obviously you have to take your hat off to the Romano Syrians, who created totaL MASTERPIECES in glassware, the like of which we can't reproduce now, but in the quote above I was referring to the British Glass industry of the 18th C. Yes, before you catch me out again (), I am aware of the various early crude two piece molds such as those used in the Holstein bottles etc and the earlier patterning molds of medieaval/renaisance periods, but I was referring to molding in combination with lettering that was a spin off of metal hinged part molds.

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