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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 2/26/2011 9:27:30 PM   
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Balsom instead of Balsam




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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 3/1/2011 12:25:40 PM   
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Nice bottle. Has a nice readable date too. I like how these bottles jumble the letters around, misalign them and leave out whole words to make things fit. I can't say I've seen that on any other bottle.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 3/1/2011 11:58:23 PM   
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Three of the most common type of Daffy's bottle: Dicey & Co, London. On the left is sand pontil, probably about 1830 - 40. Middle is solid pontil, but very difficult to date. Possibly very early, maybe as late as the 1850s. The aqua one on the right is 1860s-ish, glass chip pontil.







Jerry The middle one looks kind of like the shard I sent you. The pit that shard was found in was filled in by the 1820s and most of the layer in the pit was earlier.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 3/15/2011 4:31:26 AM   
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Thanks Chris: useful info. You're right. Color is almost identical, and even the pontil marks are very similar (circular, same size, from a glass tipped solid rod). I have another very similar sherd to the one you dug (obtained from another forum member!), which still has the lip, which is the same as the lip on the bottle in the photo above.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 3/15/2011 3:15:52 PM   
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All three. The sherd from Chris is on the left. The complete bottle is so whittled that it's difficult to show the embossing in photos.




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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 3/15/2011 3:16:31 PM   
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Lips pretty much identical:






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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 4/8/2011 8:37:21 PM   
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A couple more Turlington pics.




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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 4/8/2011 8:38:00 PM   
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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 4/8/2011 8:58:34 PM   
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Seems to have been different Recipes for Turlingtons Balsam. Found this bit of info

Turlington’s Balsam (of Life)

Consumption p. 5

Noted by Osborn as “Turlington Bals of Life”.

Balsam for a Pectoral expectorant.

“astumac Disorders and Consumption” p. 10

Noted as “the balsam…”

Turlington’s Balsam is a proprietary medicine invented in 1744 be Robert Turlington. The original recipe consisted of twenty-seven ingredients. Basically, this medicine is a Compound Tincture of Benzoin. Its advertising, its uses, and, at times, its success, led to its fame as a panacea. Other names have included Balsamum Catholicum, Balsamum Commendatoris, Jesuit’s drops, and Balsamum Equitis Sanctis Victoris (Balsam of the Holy Victorius Knight. It became an official medicine in 1746 when it was accepted as a Wound Balsam and was given the official name Balsamum Traumaticum. Other uses for this medicine included as a cure for the stones, colic, and assorted “inward weaknesses.”

Early on, during his presentation on how to treat Consumption and “other Astumac Disorders”, Dr. Osborn describes his version of Turlington’s Balsam. He lists as its ingredients Aloes, Gum Benzoin, Gum Styrax, Myrrh, and Angelica (root?) and St. John’s Wort, all of which are added to West India Rum and then left to ferment in the sun for ten days.

The simplest recipe is found in Remington’s Pharmacy and consists of Benzoin, Aloe, Storax, and Balsam Tolu. Other recipes noted in the literature are much lengthier.

Osborn’s recipe compares best with those given in Hoblyn’s and Estes Dictionaries. Unlike these, he excludes Balsam Tolu and Balsam Peru. Whereas Hoblyn’s Dictionary notes an extract of Glycyrrhiza, Osborn’s recipe included powdered St. John’s Wort, the reason for which is unknown.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 4/9/2011 1:58:36 AM   
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Very good info and cool recipes! Thanks for posting that Rory.

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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 4/9/2011 7:14:55 AM   
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Osborn’s recipe included powdered St. John’s Wort, the reason for which is unknown.
In Charles Millspaughs "Medicinal Plants" of 1892 he notes a Brazilian species used as an astringent for sore throats. That would go along nicely in a consumption cure.
In Russia one was thought to cure Rabies and another species used in the Isle of France as a specific for syphilis.


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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 4/9/2011 7:04:00 PM   
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Thanks for the info. Think it was the Tannin in it that gave it's infammatory properties. Here's another old Turlingtons Recipe also with St Johns Wort.




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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 4/10/2011 10:04:35 PM   
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Another Recipe for Turingtons Balsam. William Dicks Encyclopedia for Recipes and Processes it's great reading. This is on page 469.
http://www.archive.org/stream/encyclopediaofpr00dickrich#page/n5/mode/2up




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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 9/10/2011 8:39:12 AM   
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It has some lip chippage , but it only cost me 3 bucks at an antique mall in the NC mountains.
Its a win win for all, your 47 ahead and I am ecstatic Rory!!


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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 9/10/2011 8:48:47 AM   
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I recently obtained Rory (Road dogs) Flint glass Turlington bottle.This is a very old version of this bottle after 1754 but I quite confident before 1780.I have colored the embossing of the letters in water color ink.This bottle is less then one and three quarter inches tall.This first picture is for comparative reasons only. They could really cram the letters on these bottles.I used a high powered lens from a telescope I am building to look at the glass close up The magnification allowed me to see the date on the side of the bottle.







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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 9/10/2011 8:54:30 AM   
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I also have good reason to believe that this bottle is English in origin and it does spell the word Balsam as Balsom.
Here is the patent drawing Robert Turlington applied for in 1754.This bottle is very similar to this drawing.





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RE: Robert Turlington's Balsam Of Life - 9/10/2011 8:56:22 AM   
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Some more pictures from various angles.




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