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RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/15/2010 12:41:24 AM    surfaceone Posts: 5681 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Hey mjl, Could'ya transcribe the embossing exactly? Is it Bodine & Bros.? Is this the one? From. Could we get more jar and less lawnchair? (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 21

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/15/2010 10:06:00 AM    mjl3688   Posts: 24 Joined: 8/7/2010 Status: offline Yes, "NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR." = TOP LINE "MADE BY BODINE & BROS, WMs'TOWN, NJ" = MIDDLE LINE "FOR THEIR PATENTED GLASS LID." = BOTTOM LINE That is was the embossing says letter for letter, period for period, comma for comma. And yes, that is a 1/2 Gallon version of the "circles and squares" design, while my jar is pint size - perhaps an even rarer size. (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 22

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/15/2010 10:17:58 AM    mjl3688   Posts: 24 Joined: 8/7/2010 Status: offline Here is a picture of another bodine fruit jar that showcases what the glass lid would have been like for this wax sealed fruit jar. It also showcases a slight depression on the top rim of the lip just like my jar. This must have been used for something, maybe to pry the wax sealed glass lid off? Does anyone have any insight onto why both those jars have the same unique characteristic? Attachment (1) (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 23

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/15/2010 10:25:41 AM    idigjars Posts: 1767 Joined: 12/24/2004 From: Michigan Status: offline Hello mjl3688. The redbook 10 # is 478. Like Woody stated the redbook price is $3000 & up but with all RARE jars you should triple that price or more in my opinion. I saw some rare jars at the National bottle show last weekend and I can tell you that none were being offered at redbook price. Some were 5 times or more of redbook price. It's supply and demand and where would anybody find another jar like yours? My guess is $10k or more if it has no damage and just stain. Are you interested in selling it? If you are and it was mine it would go to an auction house. There are many antique bottle auction places out there like American Glass Gallery(John Pastor), Pole top(Ray Klingensmith), Norman Heckler, American Bottle(formerly Pacific Glass), or Glassworks. There are others, just trying to help. You could probably negotiate the percentage of selling price also for them to acquire such a great jar for their auction. Congratulations on finding that great jar. Paul < Message edited by idigjars -- 8/15/2010 10:27:06 AM > _____________________________ I collect and buy Antique Canning Jars I collect & buy Piso Cure bottles in odd colors + advertising items (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 24

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/15/2010 1:37:27 PM    cookie Posts: 1375 Joined: 2/19/2006 Status: offline if you're considering an auction house.....NORTH AMERICAN GLASS AUCTIONS, run by Greg Spurgeon......they deal almost exclusively with old fruit jars- mason jars....hope this helps----John (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 25

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/15/2010 1:44:16 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11468 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline quote: Does anyone have any insight onto why both those jars have the same unique characteristic? would see if you can track down the patent info on it, that should indicate why its there. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 26

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/15/2010 2:47:43 PM    surfaceone Posts: 5681 Joined: 12/9/2008 Status: offline Here's another photo from a past Spurgeon auction: From. It doesn't seem to have that "dip in the lip," but the stopper seems to have a bit of a dip. (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 27

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/15/2010 5:59:58 PM    georgeoj   Posts: 542 Joined: 6/30/2007 From: Jonesville, Michigan Status: online The slight dip in the rim is common on jars of this age with applied tops. I think that it is the area where the top section was gripped with the tool used to attach it to the jar. While I like most of the auction sites listed above, for fruit jars, Greg Spurgeon does cosistently get the best prices. George (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 28

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/16/2010 4:05:31 AM    dygger60 Posts: 403 Joined: 2/2/2010 From: Hill town area, New York Status: offline I agree on your comment about the Red Book pricing. Most reliezed prices will be above Red Book pricing....of course what a jar is worth is what is agreed upon between the seller and buyer. But on the down side you have jars in the Red Book that are listed well above what one usually reliezes from a sale. I have jars that in the Red Book are listed for $10 to $15....and you can not touch them for under $100. I am not bashing the Red Book by any means....it is the reference book of reference books....but it pays to know your jars..... David _____________________________ Collector of BALL IMPROVED series / BALL MASON IMPROVED series / BALL MASONS PATENT series. (in reply to georgeoj) Post #: 29

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/16/2010 8:14:12 PM    ajohn Posts: 1735 Joined: 8/25/2008 From: The Mountains Status: offline Oh man what a find!!! I am in total agreement with John(cookie)North American Glass is the place to go if you're wanting the big dogs of the jar world to fight for it.My guess...around the eight grand mark. _____________________________ I found the Red Road through the valley of the shadow of death....and along the way,found some really cool bottles (in reply to dygger60) Post #: 30

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/24/2010 9:45:11 AM    mjl3688   Posts: 24 Joined: 8/7/2010 Status: offline Wow, thanks to everyone for their very helpful and much appreciated information. I'm glad to know what that depression on the lip is, and what the bottles value is. I am going to let Greg Spurgeon place it in his auction that is planned for late October. I really hope it goes for some of the numbers I've heard. Thanks again. (in reply to ajohn) Post #: 31

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/24/2010 10:43:13 AM    glass man Posts: 7551 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: offline DAMN!!!! JAMIE _____________________________ LET NOT YOUR HEART BE TROUBLED ! IF YOU NEED A BLESSING OR A SONG THAT WILL PICK YOU UP PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS SONG FROM"VAN THE MAN"MORRISON! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi4R2YXv_AE (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 32

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/25/2010 8:40:12 PM    mjl3688   Posts: 24 Joined: 8/7/2010 Status: offline Might anyone know what year or decade this jar was made? (in reply to glass man) Post #: 33

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/25/2010 9:12:41 PM    mjl3688   Posts: 24 Joined: 8/7/2010 Status: offline Williamstown Glass Works, (approx: 1851-approx: 1894), Williamstown, NJ, United States, Occurs on 3 bottles, Show distribution map of bottles with the Williamstown mark Manufactured soda bottles. This works started in 1835. From 1842 to 1846 Joel Bodine was the sole owner. Later, it was Joel Bodine & Sons. The Bodines operated the factory as the Washington Glass Works, but in the early 1850 it became the Williamstown Glass Works and is listed on a 1853 price list. In 1855 it was operated by Bodine Brothers and in 1867 it became Bodine, Thomas & Company. Sometime between 1887 and 1894, the name changed to the Bodine Glass Company. From 1899 to after 1920, it was the Williamstown Glass Company to 1899-1920. The markings are on the front face of the bottle Looks like it could be as early as 1855...Also, does anyone have any idea how many pint sized circles and squares Bodine Brothers ne plus air tight fruit jars there are out there? (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 34

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 8/26/2010 11:17:26 PM    ajohn Posts: 1735 Joined: 8/25/2008 From: The Mountains Status: offline I'd say.........not many!!!! It'll be fun to watch this one. _____________________________ I found the Red Road through the valley of the shadow of death....and along the way,found some really cool bottles (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 35

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 9/4/2010 12:47:34 AM    digger don   Posts: 406 Joined: 11/25/2007 Status: offline I just noticed this post. I have a lid for one of these jars. Any idea what it might be worth ? (in reply to ajohn) Post #: 36

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 9/9/2010 10:44:05 AM    mjl3688   Posts: 24 Joined: 8/7/2010 Status: offline Digger Don lets talk about that lid of yours...do you have a picture of it? Perhaps I would buy it from you if it were the correct match. (in reply to digger don) Post #: 37

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 9/9/2010 8:21:47 PM    digger don   Posts: 406 Joined: 11/25/2007 Status: offline Here is a pic of the lid it is aqua your jar looks greener. I don't know if they match. Anybody know what this lid is worth ? Attachment (1) (in reply to mjl3688) Post #: 38

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 9/9/2010 8:23:23 PM    digger don   Posts: 406 Joined: 11/25/2007 Status: offline pic #2 Attachment (1) (in reply to digger don) Post #: 39

RE: Embossed “NE PLUS ULTRA, AIR-TIGHT FRUIT JAR/ MAD... - 9/10/2010 9:54:14 AM    jarsnstuff   Posts: 397 Joined: 8/28/2004 From: California Status: offline According to Redbook 10 (and what else do we have to go by?) the lid is 10 to 20% of total value, which for the pint is $3000 plus (I know, at auction it's likely to go much higher).  Since you're selling the jar anyway, you probably wouldn't want to pay much more than $300-$400 for it, as I don't think the lid will raise the sales price at auction much more than that.  (Just my opinion, there may be others.) -Tammy  _____________________________ http://fruitjarrings.multiply.com/ http://www.flickr.com/groups/fruitjarrings/ (in reply to surfaceone) Post #: 40

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