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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/4/2011 12:39:27 AM   
appliedlips


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Status: offline 		What are you talking about? Have you even tried to get permission to dig a privy before? Where did Rick mention lying or deceiving people? Now me on the other hand, I am shady and would take candy from a baby. I ask a question if they say yes that means yes and if they say no, I find out why and try to make it a yes. I get yes about 70% of the time when talking in person. I have dug alot of places and haven't found much difference in peoples reactions anywhere.Why attack him, people all over the United States get permission to dig. In a past post I see you carry an AR15 or AK-47 with you while out looking around in the desert in case you come across strange people. Where are you digging,Syria? Maybe you are coming across too strong for some people, besides that is off the subject of this post. Talking about getting shot or shooting people while out digging bottles if you need to, is not straight talk it's insanity. By the way I love firearms and against most gun restrictions but you are making me think twice. You say your against the show, it couldn't harm the hobby as much as coming across as an assault rifle wielding maniac bottle digger on an open forum.
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ORIGINAL: diginit

You're obviosly a better bullshitter than I... I have a tendency to be honest with the property owner...And everyone else... I met a man with an olg gun at a garage sale recently. Talking gun values, He asked me how much his fathers 1892 colt 45 was worth. I told him $2000 - $2500. I somehow feel you would you have said $200? Themoral of the story...Being straight is better than being allowed to dig.



< Message edited by appliedlips -- 2/4/2011 12:42:08 AM >

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/4/2011 12:51:10 AM   
appliedlips


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Status: offline 		Oregon and I believe Indiana if the artifacts are over 100 yrs. old are the two I am aware of. I know Kentucky was pushing some legislation also. Most of these measures come about without public vote and are results of stretching existing state and federal antiquities laws already on the books.

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I know it pertaining to federal as well as state owned or controlled lands, I was inquiring about privately held lands.



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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/4/2011 1:27:15 AM   
Dabeel


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From: Baltimore origin, Now the Bay Area,CA
Status: offline 		"I agree with Road Dog.. one of my favorite shows in this genre is "Meteorite Men" ..but I can kinda do without the emphasis on the values of their finds.. I wish they'd talk more science instead.."

Hey Charlie, I stopped watching the show because the producers make it all about the value of the meteorites. I mean that's ridiculous when they're adding up the value of the days finds........let's see that's one hundred...two hundred.

That's a real shame about TV needing to put the money spin on everything collectible and forget the historical value.
How come most of you Baltimore diggers are for this show..............hmmmm seems like someone might have been talked to already.(just kidding..........but if you are just do it the right way like you mentioned)

Doug

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/4/2011 2:11:02 AM   
photolitherland

 

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Status: offline 		So, basically after reading a lot of these comments we can safely say that a bottle digging show needs to sod off.

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/4/2011 12:11:19 PM   
RICKJJ59W


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quote:

ORIGINAL: diginit

You're obviosly a better bullshitter than I... I have a tendency to be honest with the property owner...And everyone else... I met a man with an olg gun at a garage sale recently. Talking gun values, He asked me how much his fathers 1892 colt 45 was worth. I told him $2000 - $2500. I somehow feel you would you have said $200? Themoral of the story...Being straight is better than being allowed to dig.


Think what you want ,I get permission because I am honest and I SHOW the home owner what this hobby is all about. I have no reason to scam anyone. (bullshitt)
Like I said in my last post to you.READ MY STORY'S they are all true account's of privy digs that took place in the back yards of REAL PEOPLE,who gave me REAL permissions.
Some people are just not good at being honest,that is why they do not get permission,you reap what you sow,so obviously your not honest.




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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/4/2011 12:15:57 PM   
RICKJJ59W


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quote:

ORIGINAL: appliedlips

What are you talking about? Have you even tried to get permission to dig a privy before? Where did Rick mention lying or deceiving people? Now me on the other hand, I am shady and would take candy from a baby. I ask a question if they say yes that means yes and if they say no, I find out why and try to make it a yes. I get yes about 70% of the time when talking in person. I have dug alot of places and haven't found much difference in peoples reactions anywhere.Why attack him, people all over the United States get permission to dig. In a past post I see you carry an AR15 or AK-47 with you while out looking around in the desert in case you come across strange people. Where are you digging,Syria? Maybe you are coming across too strong for some people, besides that is off the subject of this post. Talking about getting shot or shooting people while out digging bottles if you need to, is not straight talk it's insanity. By the way I love firearms and against most gun restrictions but you are making me think twice. You say your against the show, it couldn't harm the hobby as much as coming across as an assault rifle wielding maniac bottle digger on an open forum.
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ORIGINAL: diginit

You're obviosly a better bullshitter than I... I have a tendency to be honest with the property owner...And everyone else... I met a man with an olg gun at a garage sale recently. Talking gun values, He asked me how much his fathers 1892 colt 45 was worth. I told him $2000 - $2500. I somehow feel you would you have said $200? Themoral of the story...Being straight is better than being allowed to dig.




You know what it is all about Doug,some people just don't get it and never will. They will be digging in the desert for the rest of their lives,armed and ready I somehow think this dude is out in space.

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/4/2011 6:00:54 PM   
RICKJJ59W


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Status: offline 		Dig it?

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/4/2011 8:02:02 PM   
appliedlips


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Status: offline 		I don't know what to make of it other than I don't know why you were brought into it? It's probably just jealousy, back in the good old days I was the only one that got to start crap with you..

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/5/2011 11:21:30 PM   
RICKJJ59W


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quote:

ORIGINAL: appliedlips

I don't know what to make of it other than I don't know why you were brought into it? It's probably just jealousy, back in the good old days I was the only one that got to start crap with you..


What about Philly boy??? lol they were the daze huh ??

But I didn't mean what the crap was about.I meant you know how it is getting permissions.I don't give a rats azz what that bum says,the proof is in the pudding use layer

< Message edited by RICKJJ59W -- 2/5/2011 11:26:33 PM >

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Also dig story's I had published in Antique Bottle & Glass Collector magazine and Western & Eastern Treasure's

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/6/2011 12:12:46 AM   
diggerdirect


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Status: offline 		I see what the prob is, Google's givin us subliminal thoughts with their ads!



That and the moon beams are pretty strong this time a year.

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/12/2011 7:54:35 AM   
glass man


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Status: offline 		LIKE OTHERS I WANT RICK...I DON'T CARE IF HE DIGS A BROMO WEEK AFTER WEEK..HE IS FUNNY,COOL,AND GREAT WITH PEOPLE!

HEY I WILL START THE BALL ROLLING...I THINK I HAVE AN OLD OUT HOUSE DIG IN MY BACK YARD I NEVER GOT ROUND TO DIGGING ALL ..ONLY THE 100 OR SO BRICKS USED FOR FILL AT THE 1ST...COULD BE AS OLD AS 1830S OR AS NEW AS 1920S...

THERE ARE ALSO TWO PLANTATIONS HERE THAT SHERMAN'S ARMY DID NOT BURN DOWN[WHY NOT ? THEY BURNED DOWN THE TOWN..HHHHMMMM]...DO I GET MONEY FOR DIGGING ON THE PROPERTY..PART OF THE BOTTLES..AND ANY PAY FOR SHOWING WHERE THE PLANTATIONS ARE? I NEED CASH!! UP FRONT...WILL EVEN SERVE A MEAL OF PINTO BEANS ,ONION AND CORN BREAD ,GIVE EACH A COLD BEER!! JAMIE "NEEDS CASH NOW" !LINDSEY

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/12/2011 10:57:27 AM   
CALDIGR2


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Status: offline 		I live in CA and dig not only the city I reside in but as many as possible within reasonable driving distance. There ARE NO LAWS, Federal or otherwise, that prohibit digging on private property with permission of the owner. OR, on the other hand, has recently enacted draconian laws that prohibit the excavation of anything remotely considered old from any property, public or private.

Lands considered "public" include those under control of the state or a federal agency. These areas have long been off limits, but hardly anyone pays the least attention to that fact. If you are off in the woods digging some place in the middle of nowhere and you get discovered by the wrong person you will be in a world of hurt. "Forest Circus" employees are taught to do their best to protect the resources and this includes old bottles tossed out by miners and loggers over a century ago. Private property is completely excluded from the restrictions placed on "public" lands.

I'm with Rick all the way. Always seek permission and respect people's property. Use tarps, barrels, and whatever it takes to keep your work area neat. Someone mentioned calling USA(Underground Service Alert) before you dig. This is true if you are digging an open lot downtown, but really has no bearing on backyards, unless utilities have a right of way through the property. USA does not check out facilities on private property and will only locate and mark utilities on adjacent public streets. If you are going to dig in a backyard, it is incumbent upon you to check for gas, water, sewer, and electric services that may be in your dig zone. I carry copper "witching sticks" with me and have been completely successful when looking for potential obstacles to the dig.

It also helps to carry a photo album showing the before and after of various digs. If the owner of the home where you would like to probe sees that you are serious about respecting his or her property they are far more likely to give you the go ahead. We always probe the pits to the EXACT perimeter and set up the tarps accordingly. Nothing but the privy is touched and no soils ends up anywhere but on the tarps. I have moved trees, shrubbery, and even a water feature, in order to dig a pit. So far, not a single plant has died as a result of being temporarily removed from it's place. In fact, most have thrived, including a 10' tall avocado tree.

The key to the entire thing is to leave the place in as good, or better, condition than you found it in. Now, get out there and start door knockin'.

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/12/2011 7:03:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mike, Doug and Rick have this shat down Pat.

Pay attention boys and girls... this is how you do it!!!

I owe a lot to these guys and others for helping me get started and having continued success. It would have taken YEARS of trial and error to figure out all this stuff on my own.

And Yeah, there are no Laws against digging a pit in a backyard. Federal, State and Municipal properties on the other hand will land you in the slammer and get your entire collection confiscated. It's just not worth it when there are SO MANY backyards to dig all across this country.

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 2/12/2011 7:15:55 PM   
cyberdigger


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Status: online 		Hi, ABN people!
I am still in favor of a show. Why? because I don't dig much, I like low bottle prices, and I don't think anyone will watch it except us.
I would be glued to it and come running here to talk about it!
No offense to anyone... I realize mine is the minority view, and if I had a tail, it would be curled up between my legs..

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RE: Digging on TV anyone? - 3/22/2012 1:07:52 AM   
druggistnut


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Status: offline 		I got a call from someone and they invited me over last night to watch the episode of American Digger. Rick Savage (wasn't he a circus clown??) and his "crew" are in Alaska, digging in Gold Mining towns. His "IN" for digging was to offer the people a cut of the PROFIT.
Well, after watching the show, I was reminded of a comment I had read on here earlier, and had to go find it. It sums up the show to me.

Every one of you was 100% right to turn the offer down. Take a bow.
Bill

>>>>"If it was actually a show about legit Hardcore privy diggers, it would be good for the hobby and a good show to watch. They would HAVE to show all the hard work, effort, research, time, money spent, blood, sweat and tears to make it Real. There are NO real shows on TV, so this will never happen... it will be all about the money and nothing to do with what it's actually all about to us.

Because Real diggers will never do a show like this, we'll all end up being represented by some Ya Hoo's that get overly excited and scream "cha ching" every time they dig a 20 dollar bottle... :( <<<<

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