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RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 2:28:14 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2792 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: offline Here are 4 straight on shots to help. Attachment (1) (in reply to earlyglass) Post #: 21

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 2:28:45 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2792 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: offline another Attachment (1) (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 22

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 2:29:14 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2792 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: offline another Attachment (1) (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 23

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 2:29:46 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2792 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: offline last shot Attachment (1) (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 24

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 2:32:58 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Mike while in agreement with you in regaurds to the body of the bottle, the handle and the rolled top suggest an older date of manufacture 1825 to 1840.By the 1850s applied tapered lips were the fashion chosen most often.This is clearly a top more closely associated with an American Chestnut bottle then an 1850ish jug.While the body of Rorys bottle is rounded more towards the bottom the rest is a pretty good match to the one in the book. _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to earlyglass) Post #: 25

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 2:39:07 PM    earlyglass   Posts: 1067 Joined: 12/21/2004 Status: offline I have a couple of these in pinkish puce and honey ambers, they also come in deep amethyst like the one Road Dog has. I would say 1840-50 or later. George McKearin says the same thing... check out plate number 48 in AMerican Bottle & Flasks. Mike Attachment (1) (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 26

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 3:29:28 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Last one Mike,a good debate for the readers,First your Mckearin reffrence plate 48.Bottle number 2 and bottle number 8 almost dead rigers except for the tops of each as they are applied suggesting 1850s or later on each of these. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to earlyglass) Post #: 27

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 3:35:45 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Now lets open our minds for a moment seriously,Look at the three pictures of bottles I have combined into one.I removed your handle to allow for a better comparison in regaurds to the bodys of each bottle.A Wistar Chestnut late 1760s,Rorys bottle and your bottle.The bottles in Mckearins book look more similar to the Calabash pictoral flasks prevalent in the 1850s then the rolled tops on these bottles.I strongly feel your bottle is early 1840ish Mike and Rorys is an 1830s bottle.Both of your bottles are more crude in make up then Mckearins plate 48 bottles. Steve. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 28

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 4:06:56 PM    earlyglass   Posts: 1067 Joined: 12/21/2004 Status: offline I don't even know how you can compare that chestnut bottle to these later HANDLED pieces... at least 30+ years between the them. We can let others decide. Mike (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 29

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 4:23:45 PM    AntiqueMeds   Posts: 2022 Joined: 3/6/2009 From: Frederick, MD. Status: offline I think one thing that may be confusing the discussion is Road dog's bottle appears to be an exceptionally crude example of that form. Maybe a "Friday afternoon" bottle at the glass factory? Of couse we love crude examples best. Bottles collectors are like the Island of Misfit Toys , we gravitate towards the extraordinary. Just my opinion of course. Not really my collecting catagory, but I like it. < Message edited by AntiqueMeds -- 2/6/2011 4:24:25 PM > _____________________________ My web site - http://www.AntiqueMedicines.com/ Medicine BLOG : http://antiquemedicines.com/blog/ Email me : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to earlyglass) Post #: 30

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 4:34:19 PM    CHRISTHEHAWK   Posts: 36 Joined: 12/23/2010 Status: offline I can settle this debate, just send the 2 bottles to me and I'll decide how old they are. (in reply to AntiqueMeds) Post #: 31

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 5:14:38 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2792 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: offline I broke out my Mckearins to give it a flip thru. I'm so out of my area with these though they are crazy cool. Thank ya'll fotr taking time to research and check this one out. Here is a color pic. There is an awful lot of red in it ya think?   Attachment (1) (in reply to CHRISTHEHAWK) Post #: 32

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 5:47:42 PM    Steve/sewell Posts: 4291 Joined: 1/23/2010 Status: offline Nice color Rory,Listen I beleive Mike (earlyglass)as much as I beleive my own theorys in the end its all out there to see and judge it makes for a good discussion.Take care didnt have a lot going on today so investing time was no issue. _____________________________ Auf Wiedersehen (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 33

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 5:59:49 PM    Road Dog Posts: 2792 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: offline Thanks Steve. (in reply to Steve/sewell) Post #: 34

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/6/2011 10:37:50 PM    baltbottles   Posts: 2298 Joined: 11/25/2002 From: Baltimore Maryland Status: offline I have been of the suspicion that these handled jugs are likely made in New Jersey or Philadelphia area glass houses. These don't seem to turn up around the Baltimore area very often. And Baltimore really never blew much pure amber glass until closer to the 1860s. 1840s and 50s Baltimore amber is almost always a shade of puce or topaz or some other weird off color. If they were blowing these in Baltimore I would suspect to see them in more variations of color including green and yellow examples. Also there are a large number of handled whiskeys from New York and Philadelphia And only 2 from Baltimore. One is a unique example and the other is the Griffith Hyatt. So the form wasn't very popular here. Also I don't believe much off hand tableware was ever produced at the Baltimore glass houses except blown and pressed tumblers. Chris _____________________________ Please visit my website Antique Bottles Of Baltimore at : www.baltimorebottles.com Looking to buy Pontiled Baltimore bottles of all types Email me at baltimorebottles@gmail.com (in reply to Road Dog) Post #: 35

RE: Calling Steve Sewell - 2/7/2011 10:31:31 AM    Road Dog Posts: 2792 Joined: 6/9/2005 From: Clayton, North Carolina Status: offline Funny coincidence Chris. The only top I have in my collection that is a dead ringer for this top is on my old Houck's Panacea Bottle. Probably just a coincidence though., but funny    (in reply to baltbottles) Post #: 36

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