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RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 1:11:48 AM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Tom, Let me know next time your heading this way and we'll burn something dead and have a brew. Merry Christmas _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to alabasterbottle) Post #: 41

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 1:25:34 AM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Ha! Warren, you are so close yet so far from the big payout. The Albertson patent, unless there are two, is the Mathews gravitational. It doesn't have any thing to do with the spring stopper. It may be that Albertson patented multiple closures. Does he show the patent. To me that sounds like a lot of speculation from the author. I will start my pursuit of his book now. Does he list the patent number. The coil spring and the Albertson patent stopper are not similar in design, engineering or function. I just don't think that is correct. The Mathews stopper would not occur do to an evolution of the Coil spring stopper. It doesn't make sense. I anxiously await greater detail. Oh and Warren I think Tom found something you threw out back in the day. Okay Tom you can't say things like, "My son found two bottles in a wash out" and then not say what they are. As a matter of fact what was the one Warren discarded that you mention? Damnit I won't be able to sleep tonight!!! I hear ya on the age. I love the early stuff from around here. We simply don't have that kind of age unless you collect arrow heads or stuff Warren left laying around on one of his Midwestern wooly mammoth hunt junkets back in the day. Of course back then the Midwest was called "Uuugggg" and Warren went by the name Grog. Soooooo. Yes... that's ah... that. Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to alabasterbottle) Post #: 42

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 11:23:04 AM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Steven, The book is on it way to me right now. When I recive it [via snail mail] I will check it out in futher detail. I'm sure David put a lot of research into his book and I sent him a picture of the stopper and bottle you posted so he could see what I was talking about. And what do you know about evolution anyway, Living out there in your mid western, cheese makin cow raisen, NEW state with your no accent talkin, neanderthal, hairy backed, knuckle dragin self. Yeah I saw your pic and I'm very sorry your brother got all the looks. And I mean that in the kindest most constructive way. See Ya, Grog _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 43

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 12:47:55 PM    alabasterbottle   Posts: 73 Joined: 10/21/2005 From: Alabaster, Al Status: offline Thanks for in invite Warren, The pictures of the bottles my son found.. no names not real old.. also there where a line of broken bottles, I grabed a couple necks Tom Attachment (1) _____________________________ Alabaster, Al ------------------------------ Creek Walkin Down South ------------------------------------------- (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 44

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 12:49:29 PM    alabasterbottle   Posts: 73 Joined: 10/21/2005 From: Alabaster, Al Status: offline The broke stuff... Attachment (1) _____________________________ Alabaster, Al ------------------------------ Creek Walkin Down South ------------------------------------------- (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 45

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 3:30:08 PM    alabasterbottle   Posts: 73 Joined: 10/21/2005 From: Alabaster, Al Status: offline The site.. vacant lot on the ocean.. I wish I could have spend more time down there. There was a sea wall that got washed out(20's). Tom Attachment (1) _____________________________ Alabaster, Al ------------------------------ Creek Walkin Down South ------------------------------------------- (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 46

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 3:40:57 PM    alabasterbottle   Posts: 73 Joined: 10/21/2005 From: Alabaster, Al Status: offline Clarification.. The sea wall had been there since the 20's and just now got washed out.. I can't imagine all the stuff that washed out w/ it.., There is an old bus frame in the hole. Another shot , yes It's Thanksgiving and we are in shorts , man I love the south.. Tom Attachment (1) _____________________________ Alabaster, Al ------------------------------ Creek Walkin Down South ------------------------------------------- (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 47

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 8:50:29 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Grog, I would like to get a copy of that book myself where did you find it? He undoubtedly did some serious research. It may just turn out that he did some gap filling or rendered an educated guess. I hope he really found the patent or some thing. That would be very cool and you would get the credit. Hey dar sum udus haef aksesns. Mostly south siders. (Go figure) My brother is my conjoined twin. We do some fancy photo editing to make it look like we aren't still joined at left and elbow. He doesn't know any thing about this forum because he always has to look the other way when I’m posting. The hairy back may have been those really old Andy Rooney eye brows you've been sporting. You have to hold them up with you forearm if you really want to see what things look like. My brother has good genetics that’s why he looks so good to you! (I hope) Tom very cool to see how you guys find stuff. I have to tell you it's not that easy around here. The good stuff settles into the mud and then more leaves and crap sink down on it and it gets entombed for good. To hunt for bottles out in the open here you have to dig. Either with a shovel or your bare hands. Doesn't the sand just chew the bottles up though? What was the super old one you found? Two days until Christmas! Happy happy!!!! _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to alabasterbottle) Post #: 48

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 10:22:33 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Steven, did you ever think about metal detecting around the factory site to look for those spring stoppers. Stonebotle@aol.com is David Graci's email address. He can sell you a copy. He's a nice guy. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 49

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/23/2005 10:45:43 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hi Warren, Thanks for the info. I'll email him tonight. The site where they can be found was a bottling works from the early 1850's through the 1880's on the shore of Lake Mendota in Madison Wisconsin. The area has been redeveloped since the bottling works was closed. There is a book about Wisconsin soda bottles. The author lives in Madison. During the last stage of redevelopment he picked through the old remnants that were unearthed. The crazy thing about the place is that they took a lot of stuff and dumped it in the water through ice harvest holes. There are thousands of broken bottles out there. It's very interesting diving. My brother found piles of glass Mathews stoppers. He brought back hundreds of them. We do have an underwater metal detector but I think it would be of little use in an area with so much debris. Plus duck hunters have deposited billions of little lead pellets every where up here. They set a metal detector off nicely. Maybe I'll try it though. ' I am working on colors on the forum. My web people set up teh forum today as a Christmas present. Let me know what you think. Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 50

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/24/2005 12:29:37 AM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Steven, Thats a very FLORESENT forum you have there. Must be a Wisconsin thing.Sorry couldn't help myself.Looks great man. I think its a neat thing your doing there. Can ancient LA [Lower Alabama] cavemen join. I wouldn't mind having a dozen or so of those gravitating stoppers if Bro L wants to part with some. Since they were made in a strange and foreign land many leagues from here they are hard as hell to find whole. Email me. capsoda@gulftel.com and le me no sonting dude, hefe, me amigo,cuz. Tell heen " don make me cun up dere maan. You know. I found 2 more of those straight stopper but there crap but I think I found you a goodun. Tell your family and friends Merry Christmas from LA. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 51

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/24/2005 12:41:13 AM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Warren, I'm hoping you will join the forum. Every one is welcome. I know I've made the site about Wisconsin but every one is welcome. I'll have you know you were one of my first on this forum thing. You broke me in, you're my forum mentor. I'm sure Bob would love to send you some stoppers. He's a great guy and loves to tell the story about the stoppers. He found a pile that may have thousands in it. He filled his... Post a request for them and he'll tell you! It's his story he should tell it! Thanks for the postive thoughts. LA? you aren't having an identity crisis are you. LA is a "poo" hole! Don't get me wrong poo holes can be great if they are old enough! Merry Christmas to you and yours as well!!! Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 52

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/24/2005 12:49:08 AM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hi again Warren, I just looked at the site after reading your post. Yes it's neon alright! I wanted to go with Christmas colors for this first few days. I may change it though. If I add more categories it might not be so bad. I will likely make it match the site either way later. The color thing is a nightmare! I can pick from millions of colors! Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 53

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/24/2005 5:44:47 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hey Tom, Happy Birthday! Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 54

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/24/2005 5:52:48 PM    alabasterbottle   Posts: 73 Joined: 10/21/2005 From: Alabaster, Al Status: offline Thanks Steven.. _____________________________ Alabaster, Al ------------------------------ Creek Walkin Down South ------------------------------------------- (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 55

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/24/2005 10:44:38 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Yeah Tom, Happy Birthday and a very Merry Christmas. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 56

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 12/25/2005 12:28:49 AM    alabasterbottle   Posts: 73 Joined: 10/21/2005 From: Alabaster, Al Status: offline Thanks Warren, Merry Christmas.... _____________________________ Alabaster, Al ------------------------------ Creek Walkin Down South ------------------------------------------- (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 57

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 1/10/2006 1:04:17 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Mr Bottles. As it turns out YOU are one of only five or six people known to own an Albert Albertson Spring closure bottle. YOU are the ONLY person known to own the Patent Albertson's Stopper, Made By John Matthews, New York, patent Aug 26 1862. Stand up and take a bow! _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 58

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 1/10/2006 9:50:32 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hi Warren, Well, I'm the only one known except for my buddy who has one also. That is some thing else. When I made this post I really had little hope that it would lead to an actual resolution. It's incredible! Warren you are a gentleman and a scholar. I am going to contact the author for my copy ASAP. I need to see the patent like right now. I won't sleep over this you know. Maybe we will have to go diving again to see if we can five or six and make those bottles whole again! Thanks for the sleuth work. I guess retired people ARE good for something after all! YOU ARE MY HERO! Steven < Message edited by mrbottles -- 1/10/2006 9:50:56 PM > _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 59

RE: Hutchinson Spring stopper or what? - 1/10/2006 10:16:40 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Tell your buddy to stand up and take a bow too I'm just glad I could help. David wants one real bad too. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 60

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