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Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 9:06:53 AM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline need help. I'm trying to do a bottle gallery of all Wisconsin pre Hutchinson Wisconsin's soda bottles at my web site. I have a backlight and am getting some good pictures. it seams like my pictures of cobalt bottles just don't look true to the color of the bottles. I have a bunch of them loaded at the page http://www.mrbottles.com/galleryBlobSodas.asp I am already redoing photo's of dozens of bottles. I want this to be my last redo. Thanks, Steven Attachment (1) < Message edited by mrbottles -- 12/28/2005 2:20:56 PM > _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! Post #: 1

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 9:08:55 AM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline That last one is a deep dark cobalt blue and this one is a deep saphire blue. I don't know what i'm doing wrong but the color just isn't right. Attachment (1) _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 2

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 12:36:08 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Steven, Compaired to some I've done and some I've seen your are pretty darn good. Don't know how you could do any better. Maybe slightly less back light or a slightly grayer back drop? Hope you had a great Christmas. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 3

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 1:56:55 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hi Warren, Christmas was great hope yours was too. The problem looking at these pictures for me is that they don't look as awesome as the true bottle does. The cobalt early soda and mineral waters are some of the very best bottles Wisconsin has. I want to show them as well as I can. I have the backlight and that lights them up pretty good. Then I use the flash so the bottle doesn't look like a ghost image. It looks like I am getting a reflection of the inside back wall of the bottle or some thing. A good friend and fellow collector told me the images in my personal gallery didn't look right. I was so disappointed after spending hours taking those photos that I may be imagining things but I want to get this done this time and move on. He was right too. If you look at the ones im my gallery under host collector you can see the ones that I tried to use the sun as a back light for and now the ones thati have redone. The originals look like crap. Most of the pictures on the site came from this same camera. It's just these individual cobalt bottles that are giving me trouble. That top hat Hopkins pontil mineral water looks purple or some thing in that picture. It's actually a beautiful deep blue. I was just hoping some one would see those pictures and know what I need to do to make it perfect. Thanks Warren, Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 4

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 2:01:10 PM    Flaschenjager Posts: 1141 Joined: 12/21/2002 From: Central Virginia - USA Status: offline Hi mrbottles - Steven, First of all, for those trying the link in your post, leave off the period at the end of the sentence and it works fine. (You can edit it - included in your thread). Your photos look great and better than most that post here. For true color, I use all natural lighting for those better pictures. Meaning a good sunny day, but not direct sunlight. You don't have to go outside, just near some large windows for those winter photos. If you're still not happy w/ them adjust slightly and use some brightness and contrast in your editing program. You probably already use or do this, but may help some readers. I've just spent a great deal of time at your site and must say that I enjoyed the many pages. I'd love to add your site to my links page w/ your permission. My sites are scheduled to be updated on the first and will have many changes. A much needed update since my collecting interests change annually. _____________________________ 'Meech' Our websites: http://mysite.verizon.net/flaschenjager/bottles.html Member of FOHBC - RABCA - APBCA Editor of 'The Digger' in full color! Please support the forums with a donation or purchase! (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 5

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 2:20:27 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hi Meech, Yes please add the link. We are trying to make the site spectacular. I'm lucky to have the ongoing help of two hard core collectors and input form many more. Content is huge. It's an effort to keep good content coming. You can see me begging for it all over the site. I have even made a story for the site a part of trades to get content out of motivated people. These bottle galleries are very cool. They will eventually be on of the best resources on bottles any where even though they are limited to Wisconsin. I haven't played with editing the color because I just feel that would be a deception of sorts. The photo's in sunlight haven't gone so well although I have got some decent images that way in the past. You can see under host collector. I was so anxious to pound out that gallery including the descriptions in less than a day that I didn't stop to look at the quality of my images. The new ones are much better except I don't like the cobalt images. The thing that stinks is that almost all of the Wisconsin cobalt bottles are very rare or extremely rare. Those galleries are the only place a lot of people are going to get to see them. Thanks, Steven I'll be checking your site out tonight. I have to get back to work! _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to Flaschenjager) Post #: 6

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 8:52:51 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hey Meech, I already looked at your website last week. I found this site one night looking at bottle sites on the internet. I don't know if I found your site from here or on my own. It's pretty cool. I filled out your request for a link there when i found it. I had noticed another bottle web site from Wisconsin had a link there. It's the We Dig Wisconsin site. That's a fun one during the digging season. The guys that built it put up their days events after they go digging. Every weekend means more information If you have any ideas that would make the mrbottles site better please let me know. Thanks, Steven < Message edited by mrbottles -- 12/29/2005 1:02:13 AM > _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 7

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 9:31:08 PM    tombstone   Posts: 124 Joined: 12/21/2005 From: wv Status: offline Color correcting a photo to better reflect a true color wouldn't be deception. If you turned the bottle this color it would be deception Attachment (1) (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 8

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 10:34:45 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Ha Tombstone, Your color is way worse than mine. I guess that's a good example of the glass half full thing. I figured out that because I was taking the picture so close it was distorting them. The blob looks like you are looking up at it and the base looks like you are looking down at it. I couldn't see it at first but the more i played with distance trying to figure out the lighting I finally saw it. While the color isn't perfect it's more true from farther away zooming in than from up close zoomed out. Now I just have to retake and reload all the ones I did last night that were redoes from a month ago. Thanks for the sweet purple Wolf! Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to tombstone) Post #: 9

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 10:47:59 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Steven, Quit playing with that camera an check you email. I found your stopper. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 10

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 10:53:17 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Ah i checked my email.... NOTHING! Is this some sort of Alabamie trick? Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 11

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 11:02:53 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online No, You would definetly know if it was. Sent you a Email Just after 2 this PM. Just sent it again. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 12

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 11:03:51 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hey Warren, Are you watching those images come up perfect in the blob soda gallery? and in my gallery? Man it must be like fireworks out there on the rest of the internet. Big beautiful cobalt fireworks! The next two will be the dark cobalt blue Hopkins bottles. I saw your email, you sent it to my wife!! That's because i sent you an email from her account. It was open when i hit the email link under you name and i never checked what address i sent from. Very cool thanks! I will send the address tonight! Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 13

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 11:06:15 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Well Now, The wifes Email. This could be fun! _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 14

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 11:10:19 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Don't get excited she doesn't hardly use it. Plus she's five month pregnant with our first kid! How cool is that! Have to reboot my camera software is stuck See ya soon! Steven _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 15

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 11:31:51 PM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline Hey Warren, Look at the difference in the two images for 5006 hopkins the one on the LEFT is the one that looked wrong to me http://www.mrbottles.com/gallery.asp much better hey? Steven Look tonight i'll delete the second in the morning < Message edited by mrbottles -- 12/28/2005 11:33:04 PM > _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 16

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/28/2005 11:38:11 PM    Flaschenjager Posts: 1141 Joined: 12/21/2002 From: Central Virginia - USA Status: offline Hey Steven - I was just working on my links page and checking some earlier emails and bookmarks for this. I must say, I apologize, because you wrote to me some time ago and I've been so out of it and forgot to reply. To make a long story short, your site has been added and will be uploaded around the first of the year (next year ) or slightly before. PS - Congrats on the new diver in the months ahead. You better do all you can now...your free time is about to be cut in half or more. _____________________________ 'Meech' Our websites: http://mysite.verizon.net/flaschenjager/bottles.html Member of FOHBC - RABCA - APBCA Editor of 'The Digger' in full color! Please support the forums with a donation or purchase! (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 17

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/29/2005 12:02:36 AM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Steven, You can't afford me so theres no charge for the stopper and I'll throw in a couple extra regular hutch stoppers. I see what you meant about the pics, they are starting to look great. I'm always happy to just get a fuzzy pic. I'd pull all that your wife my kid stuff but I know how touchy you new pops are.Hope the baby looks like mom! Congrats to you and your wife and remember the phrase " YOU LOOK BEAUTIFUL BABY". It becomes really important after 6 months. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 18

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/29/2005 12:42:56 AM    mrbottles   Posts: 160 Joined: 12/16/2005 From: Shores of the Mighty Bark Status: offline How much better is this!!! Holy cow am i glad! It's sucks doing it twice but then still having junk is worse! If any one wants to know how to photograph cobalt bottles give me a holla! Oh and Meech no messing with the color on this!! Steven Attachment (1) _____________________________ What you braggen about? Check out www.mrbottles.com to see one of the best bottle sites on the web! (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 19

RE: Photographing cobalt bottles - 12/29/2005 1:18:20 AM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online You stepped back and use your editer to bring it in? Looks good. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to mrbottles) Post #: 20

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