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Can't describe the feeling - 1/14/2006 9:06:47 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Pitfinder and I went on a hunt today for Military and/or Indian artifacts. He has a 2 section hunting lease that is very close to one of the main rivers used by both Indians and Military alike. We had walked over a mile with our detectors all the while looking for flint chips, and we hadn't seen 1 piece of flint nor had 1 good metal target with our machines. We were both walking up a ridge together talking about going home or at least someplace else when my detector went off. I knew it was a ferrous metal and figured it was a piece of oilfield trash but thought what the heck, could be a metal arrowhead. The first picture shows the vastness of the land we were hunting and it is nothing short of a miracale that one of us happened to walk over that spot. There was no other evidence of a camp of any kind. One of my better finds! Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/14/2006 9:07:37 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Flintlock Attachment (1) (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 2

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/14/2006 9:09:56 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Found this brass piece 10 feet away from it. Possibly a part of the ramrod? That's what it looked like to me. Thanks, Kelley Attachment (1) (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 3

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/14/2006 9:11:20 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Kelley, Great story and great find. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 4

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 2:56:13 AM    IRISH   Posts: 1238 Joined: 11/23/2002 From: cockatoo Australia Status: offline Interesting find, the rest of it is probably near by somewhere too. The iron is in great condition too by the look of it. (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 5

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 9:01:40 AM    bearswede Posts: 2910 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline quote: Possibly a part of the ramrod? That's what it looked like to me. Thanks, Kelley Is it hollow and open on both ends? Possibly the piece that attaches to the barrel to help hold the ramrod in place? Ron _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 6

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 9:27:10 AM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Hey Irish, yes the iron is in great shape ! After some research I believe it is the India Pattern Brown Bess but I'm not 100% sure. Bear, I believe that is exactly what it is but I haven't been able to get a good closeup of one off the net. Here is a better pic of mine. Kelley Attachment (1) (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 7

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 9:27:48 AM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline nuther Attachment (1) (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 8

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 10:14:15 AM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Ron is right on target. That is on of three ferruls that hold the ramrod tube on a brown Bess style muzzel loader.The barrel is probably around there somewhere if a farmer didn't use it for a fence post. Man if that stuff could talk. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 9

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 11:23:23 AM    bearswede Posts: 2910 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Here's an interesting article, Kelly... http://www.texasranger.org/dispatch/12/Pages/SimeonNorth.htm Ron PS... Once you get that lock plate cleaned up it should reveal the manufacturer < Message edited by bearswede -- 1/15/2006 11:41:37 AM > _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 10

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 12:08:17 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Thanks for the confirmation Warren. We combed the area pretty good but I bet we will go back just in case. Neat article Ron. After I get it cleaned up, I'll post another pic. Thanks guys, Kelley (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 11

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 12:41:31 PM    bearswede Posts: 2910 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline Here's some ramrod pipes that seem similar to yours... What metal are you thinking it's made of? http://www.trackofthewolf.com/categories/partList.aspx?catID=14&subID=165&styleID=747 Ron _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 12

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 1:03:47 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Good info Ron. Most production { cheap every day use } flints used corragated brass. You could have a gunsmith make you anything you wanted. The Brown Bess was one of the production type that your average D. Boone could afford. Hey Kelly, Abrasive blast lightly to remove heavy deposits and glass blast to remove the rest and pack the exterior of the iron. Soak in penatrating oil { completely submerge } for to or three days. After that you should be able to disassemble it and determine just how good it really is. Might be able to restore it. If it won't come apart after that email me your Ph # and I will call you and give you some other helpful info. Oh yeah, don't heat it. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 13

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 1:04:23 PM    atticmint Posts: 214 Joined: 10/28/2005 From: Honeymoon City Canada Status: offline Awsum, find guys < Message edited by atticmint -- 1/15/2006 1:05:13 PM > (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 14

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 1:58:31 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Thanks Bear! Mine resembles the RP-NW-F-6-B. It is brass and we are going back to that site in about 30 minutes. Cap, I have already used my dremil and soft wire brush on it and it's looking pretty good, but I do have access to a bead blaster out at work and I thought I would hit it ever so lightly with that. I am a firm believer in Kroil Oil and you can bet it will get a good soakin! Now, if me or Pitfinder can just find that barrel today! Thanks guys, Kelley (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 15

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 3:18:38 PM    cc6pack   Posts: 543 Joined: 7/12/2003 From: Mableton, Ga. Status: offline Gunsmoke, You can also use an electrolysis method. It's simple to use and only takes about a day to complete. All you will need is some Red Devil lye (crystal form), plastic bucket, and zink. Maybe some rubber gloves if you want to keep your finger prints. be glad to post instructions if you're interested. (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 16

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 3:37:08 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online I'm set up for that, pro like, I'm a jeweler. I use it to get badly corroded movements out of solid gold and silver cases. I'd be carefull on fine iron peaces like that. Check it every few hours so it wont pit or try using salt with no iodine in it instead of lye. I always use a stainless steel electrode. Zink, copper and brass can leave micro deposits on what your cleaning. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 17

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 8:47:44 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline Well we just got back from the same spot and we didn't find the barrel! We did however find 5 more pieces of the gun. The most impressive is the brass side plate opposite the flintlock mechanisim. It is a serpent, or dragon or something. Hopefully it will help identify the gun. There was one more small broken brass piece, an iron screw, an iron catch lever, and a smashed ornate brass piece that we are not sure about. Possibly the tip of the ramrod? Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks, Kelley Attachment (1) (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 18

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 8:48:50 PM    Gunsmoke47 Posts: 1160 Joined: 12/29/2003 From: TEXAS Status: offline 1 more Attachment (1) (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 19

RE: Can't describe the feeling - 1/15/2006 9:00:55 PM    flasherr Posts: 538 Joined: 5/7/2004 From: Abilene Texas Status: offline Nice find kelly. One of these days i might actualy get up that way to visit with yall Brian _____________________________ Know anyone around Abilene Texas that digs? (in reply to Gunsmoke47) Post #: 20

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