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need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 12:45:13 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline I dug this bottle yesterday, and I have no idea what it is. The bottle looks to be cobalt blue, but when you hold it up to a light the color is violet purple. the bottle is very very thick and crude. Even when you put it up to a light very little light comes through it. The two possibilites I have come up with are poison or perfume. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks, Brad 3 1/8 tall 5/8 wide base 1 1/4 wide shoulder the bottom feels like it could have been pontiled, but it has been ground down to be flat. Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 12:46:16 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline another one Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 2

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 12:46:52 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline last one Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 3

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 1:49:16 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Texasdigger... Hey Brad, nice find! Looks like a perfume alright (could be a smelling salt too, I guess) but those colored perfumes are great bottles and some are worth a pretty penny! Congratulations... Wayne (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 4

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 3:12:32 PM    amblypygi Posts: 452 Joined: 4/6/2004 From: Western Massachusetts Status: offline Wow, yet another great bottle! Definitely not after 1900 though, that is a smelling salt from the early 19th century. If you can, check plates 103 and 104 in McKearin and Wilson's American bottles and flasks, it pictures some very similar to yours. They are comparatively scarce rather than rare, but they are valuable nonetheless. If the groundstain cleans up I wouldn't be surprised to see it break $200. Interesting thing with smelling salts is that cobalt blue is the most common color, aqua ones are very rare. Good dig, get on back out there Sean (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 5

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 4:33:32 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline Thanks for all of yalls help. This has been a great week for digging for me. I found my first cobalt poison, smelling salts, sharpe poison, 1918 half dollar, 3 pennies, owl drug store bottle, bim scotts emulsion, bim sewing machine oil, 3 realy nice marbles, 3 pennies, 1 nickel and about thirty to forty common bim bottles. The only problem was my hole kept caving in. I would dig for bottles for 20 minutes then spend an hour cleaning out the cave in. The dump we dig is usally not that bad about caving, but we have finally had some rain here and the moisture is making digging and sifting very tough. It is strange how digging in this dump goes. We will dig some days and find nothing but abm commons and then the next day find 10 good bottles with in a foot of one another. I need to find a new dump though because most of what we dig is from 1900- 1920. I guess that smelling salts bottle was just a hold over that got trown out later. Or I have finally hit a older part in the dump. Good luck to all who are digging this weekend, and be safe out there. One of the cave ins I had yesterday could have realy hurt me but luckily I saw it was about to happen and got out of the way. Brad p.s. I did alot of bottle arranging today here is the pics. of the main dispaly all of these bottles have been dug in the past few months. It is no where near all of them, but these are most of my favorites. Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 6

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 5:27:23 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Hey Ambly... You're right... I just checked the books too and found that bottle to look like the smelling salts... I was pretty close, there are some nice perfumes that are a little similar to them though... Great advice. Texasdigger... Hey Brad, keep diggin till the dump runs out!!! Imagine if you find a couple more smelling salts, some pontiled bottles?? Keep diggin and take care. Nice to see those pictures... Wayne (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 7

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 5:45:29 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline I will keep digging, but I belive I will never run out of dump in my life. The dump is about 12 acres of solid trash that is an average 6 foot deep. It is realy over whelming because there is much trash. You dig in one spot and don't find anything for awhile and you are inclined to move. That is the incorrect move you just have to keep pulgging away in the same whole. If you keep moving around you will just wear yourself out trying to dig to the bottom of the dump. It also gets very frustrating after you dig up tons of castoria, dr. prices and caldwells pepsin bottles. I wish I lived closer to all you guys I would love to get to meet everybody in person at the show thats coming up. You guys have a good time. The other reason I want to go is to try to find a "Great System Renovator" it is my second favorite bottle that I have ever seen. My favorite is the tobacco amber John Moffat Phoenix Bitters. I belive that is one of the prettiest bottles on the planet, but my pockets arent quite that deep yet. I am 25 year old bollte digger, and spending that much on a bottle is just not in the cards for me right now. So I will keep digging and probably will never find one, but I will find enough other bottles to sell them and buy one. Brad (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 8

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 5:50:18 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline Here is the bottle. I know most of you know what it looks like, but here it is. Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 9

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 6:07:09 PM    atticmint Posts: 214 Joined: 10/28/2005 From: Honeymoon City Canada Status: offline brrrrrr...I get shivers just looking at that pic also my wish bottle (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 10

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 6:21:44 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline well Attic Mint when I dig up the first two of them you have dibs on aquiring the second from me. It realy is a stunning piece of glass. Brad (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 11

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 7:44:20 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Hey guys... That Phoenix Bitters is an excellent example of New England glassworks... I believe it is a Stoddard or Keene blown bottle... they are pretty. So are the N. WOODS and a lot of the other early New England blown glass. They clean up real well, loaded with tiny seed bubbles... really great craftsmanship... Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 12

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 7:45:28 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline or this one... Attachment (1) < Message edited by southern Maine diver -- 3/4/2006 7:46:26 PM > (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 13

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 7:47:26 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline or this one... Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 14

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 7:49:01 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline finally, this one... Boy, I sure love my Stoddard's... Wayne Attachment (1) (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 15

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 8:53:00 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline Wayne that is an awesome collection of glass. Did you find all of those yourself? If so where's my wetsuit? I would love to dive for bottles. All of my life I have loved the water... fishing, swimming, looking around in creek beds for treasure. I have never scuba dived before, and I am not sure if I can. My ears don't clear that well so I am not sure how that would go. One of your Hayden bottles just sold on ebay, but I am sure you have already seen it. Brad (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 16

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 9:24:33 PM    bearswede Posts: 2906 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline quote: also my wish bottle And mine... But I'm not that fussy about color (other than aqua)... I was hoping to parlay a good chunk of the profit from my Townsend's into one, but, alas, my Volvo ate it!!! And now I'm unemployed, to boot!!! Ron < Message edited by bearswede -- 3/4/2006 9:26:49 PM > _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to atticmint) Post #: 17

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 9:25:20 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline I would'nt split hairs either. (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 18

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 10:53:14 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Hey Texasdigger... I found all of the bottles myself except for one, and that was the Hayden's... I was there when it came out of the ground though... When did you see another Hayden's sell on E-bay... As far as I know, there are only a handfull of these Hayden bottles around two or three that I have been told, so if one sold on E-bay, they paid a hefty price for it. Mine was listed on E-bay over a year ago, and it didn't make reserve, so I have it back in my grubby little meat hooks all wrapped up and in a box so it doesn't break... I'll be taking it out for "Obi-Wan CAPSODA" to fondle when he comes up to visit... Diving is terrific, it takes time but the more you dive, the better at clearing your ears you become... it's like second nature with me and I'm starting to develop Gills!!! Wayne (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 19

RE: need help with i.d. - 3/4/2006 11:52:13 PM    texasdigger Posts: 244 Joined: 1/6/2006 From: Roanoke Texas Status: offline Wayne I don't have link saved for the auction so I cannot post it, but it the auction for it ended last week. I know it was the same bottle because I saw your post in prized possesions before I saw the auction. The auction ended last week, and the last time I viewed it the bidding was around $700.00 with a couple of days to go. I am not sure where it ended at. The bottle is a real gem though. I knew that it was very rare, but did not know that is that rare. You have an absolutly beautiful collection there. Brad < Message edited by texasdigger -- 3/4/2006 11:53:27 PM > (in reply to texasdigger) Post #: 20

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