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RE: build my own tumbler - 12/17/2005 11:23:41 PM    southern Maine diver Posts: 1436 Joined: 8/13/2005 From: South Berwick, Maine USA Status: offline Capsoda... Nice job on the tumbler Cap... I have to say that I have wanted one for a couple of years now... Just didn't have the money to buy one from Wayne (the Jar Doctor) I have so many bottles that need loving attention... especially after they come out of the water and my "muriatic acid" bath... Looks like you got a real handle on this Warren. Hope to see you... Wayne (in reply to flasherr) Post #: 41

RE: build my own tumbler - 12/17/2005 11:25:51 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Brad, thanks for the idea, it works great. Hey Tom, put a piece of pipe around your drill bit and it will make it alot easyer to handle the drill. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to flasherr) Post #: 42

RE: build my own tumbler - 12/18/2005 6:46:38 AM    dirtflicker Posts: 938 Joined: 9/19/2005 Status: offline I must say capsoda, I am very impressed!!! WAY TO GO!!!!!! I am helping a friend build one right now. I tried to build my own but I couldn't get it as perfect as I thought I could (I am a wicked perfectionist) so I opted to buy one from the jar doctor. His machine runs nice and smooth, plus it is compact and easy to change speeds. They are expensive, however, VERY RELIABLE. And the product is backed by a lot of experience and knowledge. DF (in reply to flasherr) Post #: 43

RE: build my own tumbler - 12/25/2005 11:05:11 AM    tombstone   Posts: 124 Joined: 12/21/2005 From: wv Status: offline Very nice tumbler. Would it be asking too much for a pic of your stopples? Would also like to know if you're using a 1750 rmp motor and diameter of your pulleys. I'm encouraged that you are using white pvc canisters. Clear pvc pipe costs more than $16.00 a foot, so using standard pvc pipe from a hardware store will shave quite a few dollars off the project. (in reply to flasherr) Post #: 44

RE: build my own tumbler - 12/25/2005 10:40:07 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hi Michael, Here are the stoppel pics. Plumbers PVC pipe plugs, plastic water tubing, sink connection gromet, spring, and some 1/4 in rod welded in place. It all came from the local builders supply. The motor is a 1725 rpm flea market buy with a 2 1/2 in pulley. I use a 5 in pulley, on the drive rod, for round bottles and an 8 in pulley for square or delicate bottles. It works fine. I will post some tumbled bottle, befor and after pic later on this thread. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 45

RE: build my own tumbler - 12/25/2005 11:10:44 PM    atdadump   Posts: 58 Joined: 8/10/2004 Status: offline Can you elaborate a bit more on the stopple that goes in the bottle mouth. I used the same idea but without the spring loaded idea. I machined a tapered tip with the back threaded to screw on the bolt. I tumbled about fifty so far but i did overtighten one hutch and broke it. Do you have any movement with the weight of the copper in the bottle? I really like your idea with the spring. Can you show a breakdown some time how it's assembled. Attachment (1) (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 46

RE: build my own tumbler - 12/25/2005 11:32:11 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hi Steve, No problem. The 1/4 in stainless rod, plastic tube and spring are 3 in long. The gromet is for a sink supply line. Weld the rod onto the stoppel. Slip the plastic tube over the rod and the spring over both. Slide the gromet over the end of the plastic tube. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 47

RE: build my own tumbler - 12/26/2005 7:57:14 AM    tombstone   Posts: 124 Joined: 12/21/2005 From: wv Status: offline I found a link through google that allows you to calculate rpm with different size motors and pulleys http://www.csgnetwork.com/pulleybeltcalc.html By the way, thanks for the pics of the stopples, i think this thread is really getting into details that will help anyone considering building their own tumbler. < Message edited by tombstone -- 1/18/2006 3:41:16 PM > (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 48

RE: build my own tumbler - 1/30/2006 10:15:51 AM    Windwalker   Posts: 5 Joined: 1/22/2006 From: Kentucky Status: offline Have a question. Where do you get you wire. I went to home depot and bought a box with 25 ft at $9.00 and didn't get a pound when I cut it up. So is there some where cheaper? (in reply to fsperry) Post #: 49

RE: build my own tumbler - 1/30/2006 11:00:11 AM    JustGlass   Posts: 344 Joined: 7/22/2005 From: Green Mountains of Vermont Status: offline Hats off to the tumbler builders, Ive always wanted one because I often have large access to old stain dug bottles but Im to cheap to buy one and as far as building one ...I cant even build a dam bird house. I guess I could sell the stained bottles cheap on ebay to you tumblers....Than you can clean them and put them back on ebay for me to buy... (in reply to fsperry) Post #: 50

RE: build my own tumbler - 1/30/2006 11:27:16 AM    Bottleman Posts: 851 Joined: 9/3/2004 From: Central Pennsylvania Status: offline Windwalker, I don’t know where the other members here get their wire but I would try going to a local electrician and see if he can help you. They probably would know where you can get wire for cheaper then the big name stores. Also, they probably have small scraps that they would sell you too. Let me know if you find a better place. ~~Tom (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 51

RE: build my own tumbler - 1/30/2006 12:52:46 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline I get my wire off construction sites where homes are being built. Ask permission and get there before the scrap scavengers. GET PERMISSION, there is a huuuuuge fine and jail time in some states for taking anything from construction sites. My brother is a contractor and I get scraps from him too. If you would rather buy it go to the local scrap yard, it will be much cheeper than the building supply. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 52

RE: build my own tumbler - 1/30/2006 12:56:52 PM    capsoda Posts: 7510 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: offline Hey Steve, Could you machine those tips in different sizes with a centered pilot hole. I'd be willing to buy some to test with my spring set up. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 53

RE: build my own tumbler - 1/30/2006 5:43:16 PM    mudmonkey Posts: 76 Joined: 12/4/2005 Status: offline Follow the link to see one that i built from parts from ebay for about 200,but i got the canister from the jar doctor http://www.oldbottles.zoomshare.com/1.shtml/Bottle%20tumbler (in reply to fsperry) Post #: 54

RE: build my own tumbler - 1/31/2006 7:56:45 PM    Windwalker   Posts: 5 Joined: 1/22/2006 From: Kentucky Status: offline Thanks capsoda and bottleman, I never thought about doing that. Been digging bottles for years and finally getting into cleaning them. Finally got the wire cutter down pat and next build the washer. (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 55

RE: build my own tumbler - 2/16/2006 4:43:37 PM    wvbottlehead Posts: 220 Joined: 7/4/2003 From: WV Status: offline That's good advice Bottle tumbler, from now on I'm turning all my bottles on slow speed. My Jardoc machine is about 4 yrs old & the bearings are shot & the stainless bar is warped. I can't complain though because it's run 24/7. I'm wondering if it would be cheaper to buy the cheap pillow block bearings (any examples of longevity?) at a parts store, or maybe better in the long run just buy an economy machine from Jardoc for $125. I Just started looking & the pillow block bearings online are very expensive. Frank (in reply to Bottle tumbler) Post #: 56

RE: build my own tumbler - 2/16/2006 6:51:16 PM    mudmonkey Posts: 76 Joined: 12/4/2005 Status: offline I got my pillow blocks on ebay for 7.00 and are heavy duty http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7588718294&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWN%3AIT&rd=1 Here is a link to the one i built with all parts from ebay including the copper.It was inexpensive http://www.oldbottles.zoomshare.com/1.shtml/Bottle%20tumbler (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 57

RE: build my own tumbler - 2/16/2006 7:34:25 PM    wvbottlehead Posts: 220 Joined: 7/4/2003 From: WV Status: offline Thanks Mudmonkey, don't know why I haven't looked on ebay. I see the bar for $10 too. Nice job on the machine . < Message edited by wvbottlehead -- 2/16/2006 8:05:22 PM > (in reply to mudmonkey) Post #: 58

RE: build my own tumbler - 2/16/2006 10:49:46 PM    mudmonkey Posts: 76 Joined: 12/4/2005 Status: offline wvbottlehead got the pulleys for 10 to 14 and the motor brand new for 60 dollars (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 59

RE: build my own tumbler - 3/20/2006 12:07:07 PM    Unidumper   Posts: 64 Joined: 3/14/2006 From: Lincoln, NE Status: offline Everyone on this thread, thanks for the ideas and direction. I have my tumbler built ( very similar to Mudmonkey's). Have built a copper cutter and connected with an electrician who does apartment construction and has been a good supplier for wire scraps. I think I'll buy a canister from the Jar Doctor before I try to build my own. Am wondering if someone could help with a recommendation on the size to buy. Most of what I have currently to clean are the larger patent medicines and smaller. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Steve (in reply to southern Maine diver) Post #: 60

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