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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 12:55:38 AM   
DruggistBottles

 

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From: St. Louis Area
Status: offline 		After looking at the articles on the Morning Call that sold in 2011, reading Bill Ham's Bitters Bottles book and Googling - I pieced together the following:

It looks like there are a number of versions of Morning Call Bitters - all very rare. Charles Lediard sold a pontiled square LEDIARD'S // CELEBRATED // STOMACH BITTERS in New York.

http://www.westernbitters.com/2009/06/lediards-celebrated-stomach-bitters.html

Charles is also known for his LEDIARD'S - OK PLANTATION - BITTERS 1840 bottles. Possibly a Lediard's Old Dominion Mint Julep might also be related.

http://www.bottlebooks.com/questions/June2000/june_2000_questions.htm

Some pontiled round LEDIARD'S // MORNING CALL were found of the SS Republic shipwreck. Labeled versions have also been found that have "Lediard's Morning Call Bitters" on them.

http://odysseysvirtualmuseum.com/products/Lediard's-Morning-Call-Bitters-Bottle.html

There was a LEDIARD'S // MORNING CALL // STOMACH BITTERS advertised in Mobile in 1860.

A labeled "Lediard's Morning Call Bitters", embossed C. LEDIARD NEW YORK that was found in Panama.

Frank Hastings and Charles Lediard were listed in the 1866 St. Louis Business Directory selling Bitters. This bottle is listed as M130 in the Bitters book and looks to be the bottle I have. It is embossed MORNING CALL // BITTERS. Mine was dug in St. Louis. However, the book indicates a size of 9 1/2" x 2 13/16" while mine is 9 3/8" x 2 3/4". A six sided, double ring, applied top bottle embossed C. LEDIARD // ST. LOUIS sold at auction in 2008.

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/rare-c-lediard-st-louis-6-sided-figural-bitters

The bottle that sold at auction in 2011 was embossed MILLS BROS & CO // MORNING CALL // BITTERS and has column corners. The article mentions Mills Bro & Co as in the Cincinnati directories form 1866-1868.

I find it odd that there are so many variations and all seem very rare. I just wish mine was mint.

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 1:07:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah,I figured there was only one Morning Call Bitters so i didnt pay too much attention to it.I sent you an email.

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 10:34:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I love collecting shards, here are a few, I'll look in my boxes for more. We actually tumble the smaller pieces to make them look nice & bring out the colors
here are three different constitution bitters
first in yellow





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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 10:34:43 AM   
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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 10:35:48 AM   
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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 10:37:51 AM   
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Status: offline 		 a super light Dexter Loveridge, granted it is a little light than it would be as we are only looking through one side. Allof these were dug in Battle Creek MIch, for some reason this town had the most fantastic colored 1860's-70's stuff we ever found




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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 10:39:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		This summer/winter flask was dug about two miles from my house, pretty amazing as my area wasnt settled until just after the civil war. We dug pontils in the pit, has to be one of the oldest pits ever for my area.




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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 10:40:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		& the other side, again my camera doesn't do this one justice, there are a lot of different hues to the glass




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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/30/2012 12:45:01 PM   
Ben

 

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Status: offline 		I like that Summer/Winter flask.... I like that a lot

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/31/2012 7:05:07 PM   
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Status: online 		I believe your Morning Call is a St. Louis bottle James. I like the Plass even better tho

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 1/31/2012 7:11:26 PM   
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Status: online 		Your McCloud & Wheaton is a very tough bottle to aquire.

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/2/2012 8:39:04 AM   
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Unlisted large pontiled medicine SOUTHERN ALTERATIVE / NEW ORLEANS / ??


A very rare McCLOUD & WHEATON / DRUGGIST / ST LOUIS pontiled soda.


KILLERS!

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/2/2012 9:26:50 AM   
DruggistBottles

 

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Status: offline 		bottlekid76 - I really like the Plass as well.  It has really nice color.  The M & W is at the top of my list for St. Louis druggists to aquire.  I just wish half these hearbreaker bottles I have posted were mint.  Ok, I woudl settle for just one!  At least it is good to know they exist and whole ones might be waiting in the next hole.

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/2/2012 12:07:56 PM   
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Here are a couple of more...

The bottle gods were crewel and didn't even let me have all the pieces...

A very rare McCLOUD & WHEATON / DRUGGIST / ST LOUIS pontiled soda.










NOW THAT"S A WHEATON BOTTLE WORTH KEEPING!!!!! Bummer :(

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/4/2012 10:33:13 AM   
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Status: online 		A couple of samples from our upcoming book... they also come like this too

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/4/2012 1:01:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Two hard to find Chicago Bitters

WALLACE'S TONIC / STOMACH BITTERS // // GEO. POWELL & Co / CHICAGO ILL

C. H. SWAINS // BOURBON // BITTERS





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Member of the Metro-East Antique Bottle Club (St. Louis Area)

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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/4/2012 1:02:53 PM   
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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/4/2012 1:03:53 PM   
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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/4/2012 1:04:36 PM   
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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2012 8:52:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't dig very much, so my heartbreakers aren't really heartbreakers. they are low-value finds. These three still stick in my head, though:

1. I dug a shard to a pink BALL MASON jar in my first and only privy. It was the face of the jar, marked with BALL. Not realizing what it was at first, I threw it in a wheelbarrow with all the other shards I found there. I later found myself fratically digging for it when I realized it was pink!

2. Finding an odd GATORADE bottle on my Hillside Dump. I'd never see a glass Gatorade bottle before, so I (stupidly) decided to throw it down the hill, where it would hopefully land on the beach with my other finds. As soon as it left my hands, I regretted throwing it because I knew it would land on my other finds and shatter them. It didn't. Instead, it flew onto a boulder and exploded. I couldn't even find the cap.

3. Digging the front panel of a crude, possibly pontiled, FELLOWS CHEMISTS ST. JOSEPH. Again, this one came from the Hillside.

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