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RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 12:25:59 AM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline I wish I could have at least found the rest of the pieces to put these back together. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to Jim) Post #: 161

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 12:27:15 AM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline Some reconstructed yellowware. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to Jim) Post #: 162

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 12:31:31 AM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline Another view showing some other pieces. It was horrible to dig all of these bottles and ceramics broken, but things like this just go to show that there are still some really nice finds to be made. I offer a very generous reward to anyone who finds me the Soult & Zerbe or Mrs. F. Bossinger in one piece. ~Jim Attachment (1) _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to Jim) Post #: 163

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 12:36:22 AM    RedGinger Posts: 6693 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline That yelloware... geez.  Thought it was mochaware.  That is a heartbreaker for sure. < Message edited by RedGinger -- 2/5/2008 12:41:03 AM > (in reply to Jim) Post #: 164

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 1:33:32 AM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline Sure is . Even though it's usually broken, yellowware is one of my favorite things to find in the pits. We usually only see it in the older pits (1870s or earlier). I know there are a few nice whole yellowware pieces waiting for me somewhere. ~Jim _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 165

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 1:59:57 PM    deepwoods   Posts: 335 Joined: 2/9/2004 Status: offline Caz, I live outside Rochester. The way I heard the story, the guy that dug those H Lakes was one of those old time purist diggers who just loved to dig old bottles and didnt care all that much about "book value" etc. Supposedly he found them under and stuffed in a bunch of old rusted out buckets and tubs. After he'd dug the seventeen or whatever it was he took four or five with him and left the rest at the site thinking a) they must have been fairly common, and b) he only needed so many. After he showed them to a collector, he was told they were very rare, so he hiked back to the site and retrieved the rest of them. Ya gotta love it. Whats great about rare old bottles is that it's not that uncommon for them to found in caches like that; which is why I fully expect to dig a dozen Lewis Cough Syrups or Wyncoops Cures at some point this year. Go ahead and laugh. _____________________________ J.D (in reply to CazDigger) Post #: 166

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 2:31:28 PM    downeastdigger Posts: 3159 Joined: 8/22/2005 From: Crawling through the mud and briars of Eliot Maine Status: offline Hi Doug, man what a gorgeous whiskey ! You dont get more beautiful glass than that. We just got a **** slush storm today with more snow on the way :( How did you get 3 permissions in January!? or were they in the same yard. I did a talk at a historical society last night, and got 2 permissions and some leads. Bram _____________________________ Bram Get busy diggin, or get busy dyin' These photos show why you can never go bottle digging in New England, and come home "empty" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxpURSe0BBk&feature=related (in reply to Jim) Post #: 167

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 3:41:44 PM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline Ahh, SickRick's a good guy. He has a twisted sense of humor just like I do, can't hold that against him. We're all here to have fun, and even with the occasional bantering, there's nobody here that I really, truly don't like. Matt, I have another similar plate that is more complete that came from the same pit as that one. I always thought they were PA-made. I'll try to find my pic of it and post it. Any idea on the age of the other piece? It came from a 40s-50s pontil pit. ~Jim _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm Post #: 168

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 3:47:44 PM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline Here it is. I spent a LONG time picking through the fill for the missing triangles, but to no avail. It's still a decent reconstructed piece, and I'm glad to have recovered as much of it as I did. This and the other one in the previous post came from the very bottom of a 70s pit, but I'm sure they were late throws. ~Jim Attachment (1) _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to Jim) Post #: 169

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 5:17:55 PM    appliedlips Posts: 3506 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline Bram,   Thanks.Great job on the permissions and helping out the historical society.My pits were leftovers,in other words they were newer pits that didn't feel crunchy and on nasty lots that I didn't have to worry about screwing up from chopping frost.If I dig the older holes on a lot and the owner is cool I'll put the newer ones off for a rainy day or skip them.If they probe "glassy" for a couple feet I dig them right away.The weather has been very crappy for door knocking lately,here too. _____________________________ LOOKING FOR PONTILLED OR EARLY SQUAT SODAS FROM HIGHLAND,ILLNOIS.. (in reply to downeastdigger) Post #: 170

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 5:20:31 PM    appliedlips Posts: 3506 Joined: 1/30/2005 Status: offline    Nice stuff Jim.That Lewiston pontilled soda is a top notch crier.The pottery is great also,there was alot of beautiful yellowware made in Ohio,sadly it's always busted it seems like.You guys have some beautiful redware. _____________________________ LOOKING FOR PONTILLED OR EARLY SQUAT SODAS FROM HIGHLAND,ILLNOIS.. (in reply to Jim) Post #: 171

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 7:10:26 PM    PhilaBottles Posts: 996 Joined: 9/25/2005 From: philad.A Status: offline Jim, your slip plates look like the typical 1840s-50s Philadelphia style stuff. Now that doesnt mean a Philadelphia apprentice didnt move out your way and used the same decoration style. What are the sizes on the slip plates? I would also be interested in purchasing the slip decorated ones. Yes, you just read that correctly. The other bowl might be Central PA made and around the same time period. It kind of has a Bennington look. Matt (in reply to appliedlips) Post #: 172

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 8:07:18 PM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline Doug, Yeah, that was a bummer. There are a few of them known to exist, but they just don't come up for sale. I have seen and held a sparkling mint Soult & Zerbe that was found in an old house. Made me want a good one even worse . Matt, Thanks for the info on the plates. The partial slip plate is 9" across, and the more complete one is a 10". The Bennington-type bowl is also 10". I wish the other half of it would have been there, but it came from a shallow and heavily-dipped wood liner. I appreciate the offer, but I don't sell any of my old ceramics. We don't find that stuff very often, and it's always a treat when we do. I'll have to research some more on our early potters and ceramic makers and see if there might have been a Philly guy among them. ~Jim _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 173

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 8:52:44 PM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline If everyone was like me, digging pits in Lewistown would really suck since they would all be dug .....Ahh, seriously, I know what you're saying. That plate is one of my favorite reconstructed items. They just don't make 'em like that anymore! ~Jim _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm Post #: 174

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 8:54:12 PM    PhilaBottles Posts: 996 Joined: 9/25/2005 From: philad.A Status: offline Hey Jim, get your bud to go to the Shupps Grove show. That would be funny. (in reply to Jim) Post #: 175

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 9:09:43 PM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline SickRick is funny anywhere he goes. You know what I think would be cool...And you're gonna think this is crazy bullspit, but seriously. A three-man pit dig- You, Rick and me. Instead of killing each other, you guys could kill a pit with me. I guarantee we ALL would have a blast. It's an open invite, and totally up to you guys. What do you think?? ~Jim  _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 176

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 9:44:36 PM    Jim Posts: 3632 Joined: 7/5/2005 From: Lewistown, PA Status: offline I understand your opinion, Matt. The way Rick and his partner do their splits is different than most digging partners do. It probably wouldn't fly with a lot of guys, but it works for them. Gene and I alternate for first pick on a pit. It's usually the luck of the draw, but on an item with that much value, we would either do a buy-out of half the value or sell and split. That works for us. It all depends on you and your digging partner. As long as everyone is happy and nobody feels cheated, it's all good. As far as all the other stuff between you guys, that's none of my business. Neither of you have ever done me wrong. You're both dedicated diggers with a great respect for history. Just like I am. So, I would still dig with either one or both of you, regardless of the split method. And that is a killer bottle in your pic. ~Jim < Message edited by Jim -- 2/5/2008 9:50:50 PM > _____________________________ Preserving our buried history, one pit at a time. http://www.freewebs.com/lewistownbottles/index.htm Post #: 177

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 9:50:24 PM    PhilaBottles Posts: 996 Joined: 9/25/2005 From: philad.A Status: offline Your 100% correct on that. When you dig with the same person or people over and over, you just rotate picks. With something of a set value, It should be bought out or sold and split. nuff of this rabble. I would however like to take you up n your offer minus the Rick. Same goes for you if you need a change of landscape or a hell of a workout. Matt Attachment (1) (in reply to Jim) Post #: 178

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 10:41:41 PM    PhilaBottles Posts: 996 Joined: 9/25/2005 From: philad.A Status: offline you know where ill be if youve got something to say. want me to post a pic of her?? WOOF...stop making me melt and get back on topic. its rough pullin one of these out with lip boogies... Attachment (1) < Message edited by PhilaBottles -- 2/5/2008 10:44:02 PM > Post #: 179

RE: Your Best Heartbreaker - 2/5/2008 10:50:22 PM    PhilaBottles Posts: 996 Joined: 9/25/2005 From: philad.A Status: offline Attachment (1) (in reply to PhilaBottles) Post #: 180

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