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Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 1:21:18 PM    WeDigWisconsin   Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2003 Status: offline Guys,      Unfortunate for me, my digging buddy made it out by himself Friday and dug what has got to be a blue whale of a bottle. Has anyone seen or heard of this one, it is iron pontiled, forest green in color, and embossed on three sides with: "FOREST PINE / TAR CORDIAL"  "THE GREAT CURE FOR / CONSUMPTION,BRONCHITIS & c"  "MANDERSON & CO /PROPRIETORS-PHILADA"      Anyone want to venture a guess to value? I am thinking it will be making it's way to an auction house in the near future. Thanks, Dave     Attachment (1) Post #: 1

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 1:23:51 PM    WeDigWisconsin   Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2003 Status: offline Another angle Attachment (1) (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 2

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 1:55:17 PM    woody   Posts: 1678 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline I'd guess a couple of thousand for value, maybe more. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 3

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 2:43:30 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 5160 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline That's a super rare cure. Dont think I've seen one ever sell. Its listed in Agee's cure books. Holst lists it at $3000-4000. A higher price wouldnt surprise me. Your buddy owes you the next 100 first picks I think. _____________________________ Looking for Frederick Maryland and Dr Fahrney Bottles 2008 Medicine Bottle Price Guide on CDROM http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/BottleBook2008.htm email http://www.mattsoldhouse.com/MC/bottles/email.jpg (in reply to woody) Post #: 4

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 3:41:58 PM    swizzle   Posts: 1325 Joined: 3/2/2005 From: Upstate NY Status: offline That has got to be one of the best looking bottles that I have ever seen in my life. I would love to dig something that beautiful, rare or not. Really awesome find. Thank you very much for sharing. I only regret that I'm not in a finacial postion to make an offer. Jason (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 5

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 5:19:53 PM    earlyglass   Posts: 366 Joined: 12/21/2004 Status: offline I have never heard of it, or seen another. Looks like a competitor of Wisharts! Wonderful bottle. Is it mint? Are you taking offers? Mike (in reply to swizzle) Post #: 6

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 5:38:24 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Only seen one other and it wasn't as nice.  _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to earlyglass) Post #: 7

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 5:51:57 PM    WeDigWisconsin   Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2003 Status: offline Thanks for the help guys! It is an awesome bottle, it has everything going for it, loads of embossing, color, pontil, city name, rarity. I will forward him this link, maybe he can answer questions of condition and sale. I will be putting his story on our website ASAP.k.  He sent me way too many pictures. LOL. Rightly so, it was a good dig! I will put a link on when I get the story up. I hate to spoil the story, there was another one in the pit. The shoulder was broke out on it though. Could you imagine if the other was whole? WOW. Dave (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 8

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 6:22:59 PM    woody   Posts: 1678 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline The bottle reminds me of an A. M. Bininger Old Dominion Wheat Tonic bottle that I dug years ago. Same color. Forest Green, I called it. Also in line with the Dr. Townsends Sarsaparilla bottles as far as the shape and time period. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 9

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 6:23:17 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2478 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: online Hey beautiful bottle. I saw that you guys havent had any dig stories in a while on your website. Whats been goin on? lol. I got out for a couple of digs this year, but nothin great. _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 10

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 6:24:47 PM    WeDigWisconsin   Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2003 Status: offline Link to the story. http://www.wedigwisconsin.com/5-5-06.htm (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 11

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 6:27:08 PM    WeDigWisconsin   Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2003 Status: offline Tony,     We have been digging, just a bunch of junk. I knew we were saving all of our luck for a good pit. Too bad I wasn't there! LOL. (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 12

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 6:43:25 PM    BRIAN S.   Posts: 1471 Joined: 5/27/2003 From: The Mountains of Tennessee Status: offline Dave , What a great find ! Makes all the hours of digging all worth while when something like this rolls out of the hole ! I would definetly show it to a few Cure collectors before I sold ! Great Bottle for sure ! _____________________________ Tennessee Hillbilly Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most ! Always looking to buy or trade for Drake's Plantation Bitters and Drake's go-withs . And Tennessee Bottles and Jugs ! (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 13

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 7:25:53 PM    jerseybones   Posts: 13 Joined: 4/1/2006 Status: offline Killer!!!! I use to collect colored pontilled meds. Its not unknown but I've only ever seen one other about 20 years ago, it went for $5000  (in reply to BRIAN S.) Post #: 14

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 7:41:40 PM    bearswede Posts: 2910 Joined: 9/28/2004 From: western mass Status: offline quote: The shoulder was broke out on it though. How big is the hole in the shoulder??? Ron _____________________________ "I LOVE Wolfies!!!!!!!!!!!!" (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 15

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 8:50:48 PM    capsoda Posts: 7924 Joined: 11/15/2005 From: Seminole,Alabama, USA Status: online Hey Ron, Do I hear wheels a turnin and gears a clankin? Perfect candidate for some of your magic. _____________________________ Warren Diggin down in Dixie, USA Work is for people who don't dig bottles President, Panhandle Cruisers http://www.panhandlecruisers.org/ (in reply to bearswede) Post #: 16

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 9:05:12 PM    deepwoods   Posts: 334 Joined: 2/9/2004 Status: offline Dave - Didnt you guys dig a "crier" very similar to this a while back? Funny how almost unknown bottles from Philly made their way up   there. Just another episode in the freaky world of bottle diggin. Big  congratulations! _____________________________ J.D (in reply to capsoda) Post #: 17

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 9:50:27 PM    WeDigWisconsin   Posts: 28 Joined: 10/15/2003 Status: offline J.D Yep, we did dig a shard and it is in the crier section. I remember drooling, speculating, wishing, dreaming,....... Steve had dug yet another similar shard years back. Maybe a wagon load of them made it here.LOL. Brian, Who are the big nut cure collector's? You are right, it would be cool for them to know it exists. Ron,   I will be posting some pics of the wounded bottle. I talked to Steve tonight and he didn't find the missing piece/pieces. Might have to wait for the dry season and sift that badboy out. Wait until you see the color, it is hot. Thanks, Dave (in reply to deepwoods) Post #: 18

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 10:04:28 PM    Tony14 Posts: 2478 Joined: 2/15/2005 From: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Status: online Yea right after i posted it i saw the story, killer bottle _____________________________ Looking for any Fond du Lac bottle. Also looking for any embossed wisconsin medicines. And any Carters cone inks (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 19

RE: Pontiled/Forest Pine Tar Cordial/Cure/Unknown? - 5/9/2006 10:37:21 PM    treasurehunt   Posts: 310 Joined: 10/14/2003 From: Dearborn, Michigan Status: offline With somthing that nice, do you tumble the bottle yourself? Tom (in reply to WeDigWisconsin) Post #: 20

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