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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 11:39:55 AM   
Bottleman


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Status: offline 		Hi Stinger. The cobalt one on the top shelf is a mug based J. Dowdall / Union Glass Works Phil.a Superior Mineral Water from Wilmington Delaware. You are right about the Golden Bitters and the jar is a barrel Cohansey but I already sold that one a while ago. Yes, I am familiar with Tod Von Mechow’s website with the “Important Philadelphia Sodas And Beers”. I just checked it yesterday though and it said “Page not Found”. I did buy his book which is the same as the site and is very handy for identifying Philada. sodas with no town on them. I bought a tumbler off of Jar Doctor about four years ago, it’s the model that is painted gold. I am at college right now and my collection is at home so I will get you the updated picture over the weekend. Road Dog, very nice Tweddles! What state are you from Stinger?

~~Tom

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 3:42:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Tom, I don't tumble my bottles , but I have had a few done over the years. Some I just prefer to leave as they come out of the ground. Show some Tweddles Stinger. Here is a hard to find Eagle Works Philly Bottle.




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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 5:36:09 PM   
Bottleman


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Status: offline 		Nice bottle Road Dog. I also have the same one in my collections. Do you have any Philly sodas with slugplates? If so I would love to see a picture. There is just something about those slug plate sodas that I like.

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 5:59:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't think I have any. I sold a Raub & Eckert and a D.O'Kane recently. Also, a D. Heenan . I still have pics of them though.

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 7:26:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Tom, that is one nice J.Dowdal you have. I have a super mint Golden Bitters that I have kept from my figural bitters collecting days.
I just found the hard way about Tod's page going down. I had it bookmarked, but no hard copy. Do you know where I might be able to buy a copy of his book? 
I have known Wayne Lowery for years now. I made my own machine, but use his stopples and buy supplies from him.
I live in Hawaii on the Big Island. I am retired now and this is where I grew up, so its my home. I went into the Marine Corp back in 67, was wounded and they booted me out (so to speak). I worked the surfboard industry for 30 years on the West Coast. It gave me a chance to travel all over the U.S. on business (plus I always got over to the islands for at least 3 months a year).
Your in college, what is your major?
I grabbed some Philly sodas and shot them this morning (was in a hurry). Tell me waht you think about the cobalt Conway?
I'll post more sodas, I tumbling a paneled cobalt Smith & Forthingham, St. Louis soda right now.
My name is Ho'Opono or just call me Pono
I tend to like taper top sodas, but love almost any soda.




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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 7:28:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Tom,
Here are the other pictures.
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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 7:37:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Road Dog, that is a nice and somewhat rare soda. You just don't see too many of them.
As promised, here are three Tweedles, the lefthand one is open pontiled, then next is one much like your taper top and then finally a newer one.
Do you do any digging?
Keeping a bottle as found has its merits. I think that is entirely a personal preference whether to tumble or not. I have seen some dug bottles with a patina that was just beautiful.
Pono (Stinger)




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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 7:42:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Road Dog,
Could you please post pictures of your sodas even though there gone and any background information that you might want to include.
Pono

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 8:01:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Stinger, I sold quite a few to someone over in Hawaii. My seller name is Coolspecs4u.

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 8:09:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice Tweddles! I have a Tweddle Jr. around here somewhere's. I haven't dug much since the 1970's. Got into arrowheads hunting. Just not enough time and now with the new Baby even less time. When he grows abit we'll have to go huntin for Bottles and Rocks!




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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 8:38:03 PM   
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Hi Tom, that is one nice J.Dowdal you have. I have a super mint Golden Bitters that I have kept from my figural bitters collecting days.
I just found the hard way about Tod's page going down. I had it bookmarked, but no hard copy. Do you know where I might be able to buy a copy of his book? 
I have known Wayne Lowery for years now. I made my own machine, but use his stopples and buy supplies from him.
I live in Hawaii on the Big Island. I am retired now and this is where I grew up, so its my home. I went into the Marine Corp back in 67, was wounded and they booted me out (so to speak). I worked the surfboard industry for 30 years on the West Coast. It gave me a chance to travel all over the U.S. on business (plus I always got over to the islands for at least 3 months a year).
Your in college, what is your major?
I grabbed some Philly sodas and shot them this morning (was in a hurry). Tell me waht you think about the cobalt Conway?
I'll post more sodas, I tumbling a paneled cobalt Smith & Forthingham, St. Louis soda right now.
My name is Ho'Opono or just call me Pono
I tend to like taper top sodas, but love almost any soda.



Nice Conway, Has that been tumbled? It really Sparkles. I still have a Conway around here. It could use a turn.

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 9:08:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Road Dog, I asked my wife if she bought any bottles from you and she and my sister have off of ebay. They both ask my brother in law and I about bidding on the bottles on ebay. About two months ago, I told them that they were on their own with ebay.
I personally hate ebay and won't have anything to do with them anymore. Though I must admitt they have come up with some nice bottles, but they have been ripped off big time as well. However, no know puts a gun to your head and makes you use them.
She sold some bottles on ebay recently, what a nightmare. We're still being harassed by a deadbeat bidder. I told her just put her bottles and the cheap ones up for auction from now on.
I have gone to the post office for her and sent money orders to the mainland (probably some to you).
Those are very nice sodas, especially that deep cobalt Ryan. I have an attic mint A.P. Smith, never been in the ground or tumbled, yours looks very nice.  That W.H.H. is really a tuff color, I have seen them in shades of cobalt mostly. So, did you down size your collection?
A new baby boy, congradulations.
I now buy bottles from the major auction houses and from connections on the mainland. The local bottles come from diggers, collectors and we even have a small retail bottle shop up the coast
Well, small world, we've probably emailed because my wife will go visit friends, family and leave me with answering some of her email.
Pono

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 9:12:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Pono, those are some great sodas you pictured. I really like the looks of the Roussel with the dark color and the star. I must complement you on your great photography too. Do you use a back light? I wish I could say my golden bitters was super mint but it has a crack. That’s the way I dug it though. I will try to find Tod’s email address for you to contact him about his book. I just emailed him last year and he sent me the book for like $20 I think. It’s a really great book with lots of information not on the site and it has a page or two of color photos. That Conway is a killer with the bubbles! The major I am studying is Environmental Technology.

Road Dog, I tumble off of my sodas but I try not to cut the outsides, just polish them. I like to see a little wear and scratches to show age. I have seen too many bottles that were cut on the outside with rounded letters and are just too shiny. I do like to see a bottle with no stains but I can see how you would like an untumbled bottle.

~~Tom

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 9:15:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Road Dog, this Conway was one of wife's purchases and it had already been tumbled by the seller. He did a good job on this one. She bought some others from him and I had to retumble some of them.
Pono

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 10:19:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		True Tom you can over tumble a bottle.It is extra special when they are attic mint. Thanks Stinger, I am downsizing for sure. I collect too much stuff. I kept some ones I like( not necessarily the most valuable) and a few that are both really rare and I like as well. I have a bit more I have to sell off yet. Mostly nonpontilled stuff. Here are a couple of Boardmans I sold off. 




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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 10:22:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Howsit Tom,
That Roussel is an older version, very heavy, crooked, much cruder. I have the same one in a later mould and its much lighter and less crude. The Conway is very nice, lots of bubbles, great iron pontil. I also have the double tapered top squat Conway in Cobalt. The inside has some heavy etching that wasn't removed, but the bottle was polished. These are my wife's findings, so the kudos should go to her.
OK, now you have to tell me what type of job/s you are interested in your field of study. It sounds like a wide open field with many applications.
Both my daughters are professers at the U of H.
Road Dog likes his bottles as found, you pefer to polish and leave some wear and I like them to appear as they were just made. Its funny how different as collectors how we like our bottles to be displayed.
My picture taking is done by the seat of my pants. I am learning how to shoot glass and its not easy to do.
When my Smith & Forthingham is done, I'll shoot some of my favorite St.Louis sodas and post them.
I have more Philly sodas and will post them. Probably, one of the best ones that I have is a teal Dr. Simes soda. Its iron pontiled and its a drug store mold. It the same Dr. Simes on the famous Chestnut street address. I also have a few of his pontiled meds. I was told that its rare in teal.
I have a friend in Pittsburgh who is a long time collector. He has helped me find some nice Pittsburgh Porters, all aqua.
Well, keep the chatter and pictures coming.
Pono

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 10:28:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Whoa, the color of that one Boardman is very different. My wife just sold an attic mint light to medium cobalt Boardman on ebay.
When you get a chance post the ones you kept.
By the way, whats your name, my wife and I are curious.
Pono

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 10:41:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		My real name is Road Dog.......................................just kidd'n. It's Rory Martin and my wife is Chona. Yeah those green teal colored Boardmans are really tuff to find. Here are a couple of Boardmans I still have.Not as Rare ,but I like them.  




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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 11:11:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Chona and Rory Martin, I have gone to the post office for my wife and sent MO's to your wife. I remember your wife's name, Chona.
My wife has bought some nice bottles from you guys. Don't tell me that you've sold your bottles on ebay. We can always count on your bottles (as far as I can remember).
Wife buys them, I clean them.
Those two Boardmans in my personal opinion are more interesting than the cobalt paneled one that you sold. I would definitely keep those. They have a lot of character. However, if you ever get tired of the light cobalt big lettered one, drop us a line. Its not always the big ticket bottles that are the only keepers. We have some very common sodas, but they are some of our favorites.
OK, why Road Dog? Well, I'll go first about Stinger. Stinger is the name of a big wave board that I designed for our team riders. Our youngest team member won the Mavericks Big Wave contest on that design. I used to surf Mavericks before it had a name in the 60's and then again in the early 70's. I ride big Hawaiian waves on a modified version (for Hawaiian waves) of that board.
Pono

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RE: embossed pontiled sodas and mineral waters? - 11/16/2006 11:33:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		That's pretty Kool Stinger. Yeah, we are 100% reliable sellers and I'll accept returns if the buyer isn't happy with no hassles. Road Dog is the name given to me by Mopar Magazine. I drive a 1969 Dodge Charger R/T and have owned it since 1978. It has 370,000 miles on it. That's alot of driving on the road. So they named me Road Dog.

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