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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/11/2004 5:18:22 AM   
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From Bermuda,dig and dive for bottles island-wide.Usually dig during our winter and start diving about May when the stinking heat starts up again!Having read some of the posts on others' digging conditions I'll consider myself lucky!(no snakes,scorpions,blackflies,mites,chiggars,etc,etc.!)

Hats off to you all!

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/11/2004 7:35:45 PM   
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Im originally from a small town in Sth Connecticut, Lyme, and I wish I had known about digging when I was growing up; there was at least 20 to 30 houses in the town from the 1700s! I could have cleaned up in the 60s-oh well. I live right now just outside Rochester, N.Y and work as a roofing contractor and play blues harp with a trio. I have one very big dump way back in the woods that I dig in-mostly 1900-20s with some older stuff;dug my first bitters last year-a nice Niagra Star. Woody,sounds like you know your way around the drums-have you heard those Buddy on the bus recordings on the net yet? Talk about the bandleader from hell. The guy could play though. Mike, I love to hear your stories from the early digging days,oh for a time machine-you guys"really had the place to yourselves"back then;did you know guys that started earlier than you did?

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/12/2004 7:08:48 AM   
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Someone posted those Buddy Rich recordings on Billy Cobhams website.
He had quite the mouth.
There's some recording of Paul Anka, too, on the same site.
You would've thought he was Buddys' protege.
I still gig alot around the Lakes Region of Central N.H.
Our trumpet player doubles on Harmonica.

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/12/2004 1:05:39 PM   
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J.D., I've got lots of stories from the old days, but would I bore you all with them? Just tell me, if you all want to hear them (It would be like Grandpa sitting in the center with everyone else sitting around, wishing they had been there!).

Hey guys, I also sang in the old days! My cousin was "Cousin Sadie" with WLVA in Lynchburg, Va.

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/12/2004 8:56:14 PM   
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I'm from upstate NY, 75 miles north of NYC. My house dates to 1884, and my area is full of historic areas. New Paltz is 2 miles from me and was settled in 1649.

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/12/2004 11:40:57 PM   
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Hey Mike! Stories are always good, not boring..what was it like to go into these bottle dumps where no one else had been? Were the bottles just laying on the ground? The old homesteads ; did they just leave things behind when they vacated? Intresting reading for me at least..there was one place that we dug, back in the 80's that no one had touched for 100 years..it was so cool..I would like to hear more..take care!

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/13/2004 12:04:53 AM   
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Hi nSusanne,

Okay, I'll start telling stories about the early days and hope you all will enjoy them. I will try to begin telling them tomorrow. I certainly hope that they will be informative, honest (above all else), and interesting to everyone..

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/13/2004 4:20:37 PM   
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Mike - Please do! Btw Anything left of that Jamestown dump?

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/21/2004 9:54:15 PM   
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I am brand new to this site.

I live in Chicago,IL and am looking for good places to dig.

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks guys.

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/21/2004 10:21:56 PM   
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Okay, let's start with the old Jamestown, N.Y., site, since it's been mentioned before. It's right off of Rt. 17, near the city and right off the lake. I haven't been there in more than 20 years, so it's probably built over by now, but who knows? If it's still there and you can get on, let me know what you find. Dig on the left side as you face the site. The oldest things are toward the front, but it doesn't matter; it's a great old dump.

There were 4 of us digging. One fellow went off toward the front of the site while the other 3 dug as a group elsewhere. The digging was good. We dug some nice blob-top sodas and beers, tons of medicines and canning jars, etc. The digging was always good. Seriously, we would leave Virginia with only our digging tools and the clothes we needed. You don't drive that many miles unless it's worth it. Each time, we came back with a full truck full of goodies and left a lot behind.

On this particular day, the single digger, Howard, went and dug a hole further up from us. After a while, we heard him yelling, so we scrambled to see what was wrong. When we got there, we saw Howard's feet sort of sticking up from the hole with his head well into the hole. The overburden was about 1-1/2 feet deep, right over his head. We thought some of it had collapsed on him. Nope, he another reason to holler!

Howard had unearthed the remnants of an old tin with jewelry in it. He held his hand out to us. The first thing I remember coming out was an emerald ring, then a wedding band
(gold, of course). Then another wedding band and a diamond ring. This process continued for quite a while. After he had gotten everything out, we sat down and discussed what he had found. Of course, it's a bit hard to talk when you've just excavated a small fortune, but we sat and finally tried to figure out where they came from. The only thing that would explain it a jewelry store robbery. There were more gold wedding bands that would be in a family. People don't usually have more than 1 diamond ring, especially in different sizes. They were either hidden in the dump or somewhere else and accidentally put in the household's trash.

Now, for me, the best part was that Harold, a strong and good worker, was out of work and his unemployment was running out. This little ransom would keep Harold and his wife, along with their children, with food and a house over their heads for quite a while. A little over a year later, Howard was back at work. Thanks for the true tale, Howard.

Next time, we'll talk about the right side of the site. But that's another story.

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/22/2004 2:17:17 AM   
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Great story Mike! I guess the powers that be work in mysterious ways.I read the autobiography of a cat burgler from the turn of the century who said he burgled a company payroll,buried the loot in lot,came back 2mths later only to find a new house built right on top of the spot.Made me think of your friends find.What about some of the great bottles you found over the years?Any one of kinds or close to it?I have a friend that dug a very strange,crude teepee soda - Charmont Soda Water,teal,very pronounced shape,supposedly only one other one known.Did you know anybody that dug in the fifties or earlier?

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/22/2004 11:07:23 AM   
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Thanks for the great story Mike I love happy endings as we all know, people buried things all the time in the old days..I have heard tales of money found in jars, in the walls of houses, ect...loot from a holdup is what kepps treasure hunters going...looking forward to the next story Mike

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/22/2004 5:28:19 PM   
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Great story Mike! And HOORAY for Harold! Stories like this is what it is all about. For every thousand times I've sunk a shovel and come up empty, there is always the chance that the next time there will be an extremely rare bottle, a well preserved historical artifact, or a small fortune from a robbery of yore! I love this hobby! Happy Diggin, Kelley

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/28/2004 9:08:27 AM   
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As my signature says, I am from a suburb of Adelaide, South Australia called Netherby, which is actually part of a larger suburban city called Mitcham, which contains plains as well as hills and valleys. The nearest place I dig is about half an hour's walk from here, along a small creek into our hills area. It dates from maybe just before 1925 to around the late 1950's.

However, I never miss the chance to dig in other areas of the state I live in, South Australia. One place that our state bottle club has had digs at is a small town about 200k from Adelaide, called Terowie. We are hoping to dig there again soon, and then I can post the information and what was dug and a photo or two. Terowie had the longest railway platform in South Australia, and when it was a railway town, had the distinction of General Douglas McArthur alighting on the platform.

Unfortunately, most of the known sites around Adelaide have been dug out, and research into other possible sites is very slowly opening up more sites around Adelaide.

A feature of collecting bottles in the north of South Australia, apart from digging century plus old dumps, is "mud treading" in mangroves at Port Augusta and Port Pirie and some places close by.



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Lots of luck digging!
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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/28/2004 11:13:29 AM   
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TANDY - Always wanted to get out to Australia...bottle diggin would be a great excuse. Sounds like most of the diggin in AUS is in creeks or dumps - have you attempted any privies/dunny holes yet? Might be better luck there if your local dumps are dug out.

Not sure if Aussies used their outhouses the same as US folks did, though.

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/28/2004 7:56:21 PM   
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pvg_320 - I personally have not dug any dunny holes, but they certainly do get dug. Wells are sometimes dug out also.

Apart from old dumps and creek beds, areas around old farm houses are probed and dug, as are vacant sites after demolitions. Long gone pubs, inns, even towns are dug after some research to find them, often scrub (bushland) is searched, but there it is more likely to be on the surface.

Some diving takes place also, especially in New South Wales.



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Lots of luck digging!
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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/29/2004 4:43:23 AM   
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Lot's of diving and creek digging in Victoria and NSW, dunny holes and tips (dumps) are prolific over most settled areas but it's now illegal to dig up anything over 50 years old in Victoria so naturally we don't do anything but creeks now (how stupid can they make a law ? ).

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 6/29/2004 6:28:41 AM   
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I'm from NYC originnally but did a lot of dump digging in the early 70's in the Adirondacks. Lived in Montana for 24 years, but didn't do too much digging there, but was able to explore old mine sites & rairoad lines and collected insulators and miner and railroad paraphanalia. Now I'm back in NY in between the Shawngunks & Catskills in Shokan. I'm a part time surveyor so I still find old dumps & bottles occasionally with some nice bottles still laying on the surface. Haven't found any viens yet mostly surface dumps along stone walls.

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 7/1/2004 8:05:00 PM   
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I'm an aquatic biologist in western Massachusetts. I generally spend my time diving more than digging, but I have stumbled across a riverbank dump or two. And there are still things to be found in the rivers and lakes, though it's getting harder every year. Lots of people are into bottle diving these days. I've been collecting bottles since the late 60s, when I was a kid and we lived on a 365-year old farm house in West Greenwich, RI. (really, built in the mid-16th century supposedly, the original house was tiny and enclosed in later additions). Man I wish I still had my collection from back then, it has disappeared over the years. And there was that time my little sister tipped over the bottle shelf... D'oh!!

Sean

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RE: Where do you live? And where do you dig? - 7/1/2004 9:16:12 PM   
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Hi, Sean . . .

I remember exchanging posts with you now. The aquatic biologist -- aquatic insects was your emphasis, if memory serves me. I remember looking forward to seeing pics of the bottles you were finding in the rivers (I am a river diver, too).

BTW, I like that line-drawing (woodcut?) of the Bufonid in the pic of your books in another thread.

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