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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 12/27/2006 11:58:24 PM   
druggistnut


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If anyone else would care to write to the Manchester Express newspaper, this fellow is the one "spearheading" the articles/investigation. While it hasn't been proven, keep in mind, he is PROBABLY the one who called the digging to the attention of the State archeologist. If you read his original article, perhaps you will see what I did. It's obvious that he reads the posts here.
If anyone has an idea as to why he wants a local person for rebuttal/etc..., let me know. I thought you might have insight in to that, Buck.
His emailed response to me is below. PLEASE, keep it civil and reasonably intelligent.  <smile>  We don't want to give anyone any ammunition. I read quite a bit about William Rathje, as Mr. Baxter suggested, and it gives me more insight as to where HE (Baxter) is coming from. http://www.eia.doe.gov/kids/energyfacts/saving/recycling/solidwaste/landfiller.html  (one Rathje article)
It's only a matter of time before they start clamping down even more and we need to be prepared.
I understand those of you who say "keep under the radar." I have always tried to keep my head low, too, and not advertise the fact that I actually made some money digging. It matters not that it goes right back to the hobby. People can be turned away from the pleasant picture of "hobby diggers" when they hear about someone digging a $1500.00 milk bottle. It just does no one any good to post that stuff. We DO have plenty of lurkers here and elsewhere. Every Dr. Fletchers I ever dug turns in to instant riches, in those minds.

If an FOHBC club from the Manchester area feels compelled to get involved, that would be great, but I would suggest looking to the National office for guidance, first.
Bill Heatley
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ebaxter@manchexpress.com  Writes>>>>>>>>>

Mr. Heatley,
We published your letter in the Dec. 26 edition of the Express. I just
wanted to say thanks for the insight and the courage you showed to voice
your opinion. It definitely added to discussion.
As to the postings on the forum, well, if all of you banded together
maybe you might get legislation passed allowing you to do this legally
rather than digging in a gray area.If you think it's impossible, look to
the Civil Rights movement, look to Rosa Parks. However, it's good to see
people on the forum have opinions, even if they keep within the safe
confines of friends and people who think only like they do.
And again, a general request still stands - if you know anyone from this
area who wants to go on the record with a rebuttal I would be happy to
talk with them and give them as much ink as anyone else. I agree that
there is a difference between a responsible collector and a treasure
hunter and I would like to make the readers aware of the distinction as
well as the ethics followed by the collectors, but I need a local voice
to do that.
Best regards and thanks again for the input.
Eric Baxter
Manchester Daily Express
PS Some of the forum members should read William Rathje's studies of
trash to see the information value that even the most recent waste
stream can generate.

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 12/28/2006 5:24:11 PM   
bttlmark

 

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I wonder why he insists on a LOCAL when this is done across the country?

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 12/28/2006 7:17:52 PM   
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so he  can get the credit for handing over the town's first victom 

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 12/31/2006 6:58:09 PM   
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  • there is another prospective to this issue.the fact that it is a waste dump site without proper treatment mechanisms in place .i cant imagine how many chemicals and other harmfull agents have filtered into the river. what about the fact that you guys are doing the city a favor buy helping reclaim the land to its natural state by removing these harmfull debries  to allow the soil to support new plant life .it would costs alot of money to have profesionals come in and reclaim that dump its verry hard work and maybe the city should be paying you guys to dig there .

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 1/1/2007 9:45:24 PM   
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"The earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it. You might as well expect the river to run backward as that any man who was born a free man should be contented when penned up and denied liberty to go where he pleases." Joseph {Hinmaton Yalatkit} (1830-1904) Nez Perce chief

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 1/2/2007 1:31:51 AM   
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I hate when it says awaiting approval, I would really like to read what george has to say

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 1/2/2007 3:55:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bottlediger

I hate when it says awaiting approval, I would really like to read what george has to say


Awaiting approval means the post must be seen by Admin before it is seen by everyone else.

It can occur for numerous reasons, for example all posts in the Scams and Frauds section normally require approval to prevent problems. Also individual members may have their posts pre-moderated for a while because they are continually uploading oversize pictures, using inappropriate language etc. Lots of different reasons as you can imagine....

George is off pre-moderation now. 

- Admin

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 1/2/2007 2:46:28 PM   
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quote:

any man who was born a free man


And what of those born otherwise...?

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 1/2/2007 4:30:39 PM   
Digger George

 

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and of those born otherwise must fight for their own freedom and rights, just like the bottle digger should fight for their respect and rights to dig, especially at a place where the ground is disturbed(what archaeologists avoid), where it is a flood plane that can't be built on and where no one is hurting anyone. It's just a turn of the century landfill, why does such a serious conflict have to be created. It's not about the money. It's about getting outdoors, learning and having fun!

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RE: New Hampshire Bans Digging... Starting Now? - 1/2/2007 5:20:50 PM   
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It has been said many ways in the replies to this post but that is the best I've heard it put!

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