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may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bottles - 7/15/2011 10:50:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		after reading all the cleaning tips I dedidecd to get some muriatic acid, They did not have any, saying harder to get very danderous stuff. Something else caught my eye. I decided to try it...will get into details later

pictured is a prov ri patd d coke I found over a year ago, i cleaned and scrubbed and cleaned and scrubbed this was the best I could get it. I came home with the product did a 10 to 1 ratio as suggested. Poured a little in the coke and 3 sick bottles. then poured into bucket and added water untill all submerged...gloves and goggles and mask were used as precaution....left and started to watch the REd sox Game 5th inning.....




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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/15/2011 10:55:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		after the game I decided to check on the bottles that were outside,(about a hour went by) my intention was to let them soak at least overnight the coke looked so clea I had to take a pic. I virtually took the garden hose and rinised (all the sick and blacknes had already dissapered) before I rinsed...very happy with this result..put it back in the bucket for the rest of the night and will get back to everyone tomorow on what was used and precautions want to make sure everything is cool first.....almost looks tumbled
here is the same bottle after only one hour soak sorry for any misspellings but my fingers move faster then my brain sometimes lol




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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/15/2011 11:18:16 PM   
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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/15/2011 11:25:26 PM   
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Status: online 		You can't just wash the bottle off with water. You have to use a base, like baking soda, to neutralize the acid. Otherwise, the acid will run off into the ground and screw up the soil. I take the bottles out of the acid, dunk them in a baking soda/water mix, then rinse them with clean water. You can't dump the acid down the sink either, or it will destroy your pipes. Aside from those issues, it really works wonders on gunk, rust, and some kinds of stain.

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/15/2011 11:38:35 PM   
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after reading all the cleaning tips I dedidecd to get some muriatic acid, They did not have any, saying harder to get very danderous stuff. Something else caught my eye. I decided to try it...will get into details later


He never used the muriatic acid, he has some top secret mystery substance...

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 5:47:28 AM   
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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 7:17:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Muriatic acid isnt hard to get. Basically any place that sells masonary supplies with have loads of it.

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 7:48:01 AM   
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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 8:03:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		actually I cleaned The crap out of it using all the suguestions before, bar keepers friend,soaked it, brushed the crap out of it in diffrent concaucations ect ect over a year ago the best I could get it was the first picture. Correct it is not muriatic acid, but a replacement for it. still has some acid base so . WHEELAH is right better safe then sorry. ALWAYS NEATURILIZE WITH BAKING SODA FIRST all though it says 90% less fumes, and user friendly, you still have to be very careful and use all precautions . GLOVES ,GOGGLES , mask ECT as with all chems READ the directions and cautions before using . it suggest 1 to 4 for certain situations and ratio up tp 1 to 10 which .
i used so didnt mean to decive anyone .they were out of muriatic acid,andf found this sub and daid it is much safer but not safe.




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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 8:08:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		here are the other 3 along with the coke, picture dosnt do it justice sun was still low.the small far right and left bottles was very sick almost completly white ,nothing worked before , the other was sick also. The jury is still out to see if the sickness stays away, and how long to soak ect ect...like I said caution caution see wheelahs and my post above....this is still acid based just suppossed to be safer then muriatic acid which my store no longer carries...this may not be new to most of you as it is to me.
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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 8:38:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi..I am an egg artist..sometimes need to etch an egg..I sent off for a free sample of this about a year or so ago..they sent me a full quart of the stuff..haven't thought to try it on bottles..ms.gal

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 8:55:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		have about 8 really sick bottles that I pulled out of my shed, was eventually going to recycle them , gonna let them soak untill sunday am, will keep posted. Like I said before this is still acid based but supposed to be not as dangerous as muriatic acid.

the coke bottle is what sold me Ive tried like i said before to clean that dam bottle nevwr got it clean, as seen in the first picture

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 8:58:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		egg artist very interesting would like to see some of your work.

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 10:34:04 AM   
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quote:

egg artist very interesting would like to see some of your work.


LOL..don't have to ask twice..http://entertainment.webshots.com/photo/1263913348059751065kKPNdo

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 10:35:13 AM   
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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 11:18:42 AM   
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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 12:34:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		very cool , good artist......

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 9:01:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		I had looked into the formula of that "Acid Magic" stuff the last time someone posted something about it here, and after a bit of searching discovered that it is pretty much just muriatic acid with proprietary buffers to reduce fuming (the label itself indicates it is HCl). I am not sure what percentage of it is hydrochloric acid, but at best it is no stronger than Muriatic, and quite a bit more expensive. Fumes aren't a concern if you know what you are doing and have the proper gear, and if the undiluted material gets on your skin a quick rinse will avert any injury. Concentrated sulfuric, nitric, and particularly hydrofluoric acids aren't so forgiving.


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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 9:19:09 PM   
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Muriatic acid isnt hard to get. Basically any place that sells masonary supplies with have loads of it.

all the mason supplies by me now carry the safe stuff, pool stores by me have the good stuff...

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RE: may have stumbled on how to clean sick and dirty bo... - 7/16/2011 10:26:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Splante, you are confusing a dirty bottle with stain to a sick bottle. There is only one acid (to my knowledge) that will take sickness off a bottle. That is Hydrofluric and you had best be a chemist with many years of experiance using it or you will end up quite dead. It is wicked stuff so I am told. The only other feasible way to take sickness off of glass is to tumble it. Muratic acid is great for stains and I have used it 50/50 with water and had good results. It is a mild acid (as acids go) but you are wise to take all the precautions of goggles, neoprene gloves and GOOD ventilation. It will mess up any metal you have close enough that the fumes can hit it. Smoke

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