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more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 10:01:50 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11432 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330491608104 reported to fleabay as a fake (whatever good that does) I get emails from people asking me about these bottles quite often. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com Post #: 1

RE: more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 12:38:13 PM    CALDIGR2 Posts: 2264 Joined: 6/20/2005 Status: offline Excogitated? It means to think something through. To contrive, decide, invent through thought process. In her case it simply means FAKED, but her use of a contrived word gives her license to steal. _____________________________ Dig no privy before it's time. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 2

RE: more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 1:34:53 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11432 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline quote: Excogitated It reminds me of the old PT Barnum story ... from Wiki.. At one point, Barnum noticed that people were lingering too long at his exhibits. He posted signs indicating "This Way to the Egress". Not knowing that "Egress" was another word for "Exit", people followed the signs to what they assumed was a fascinating exhibit...and ended up outside. yes it is a blatent attempt at deceipt. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 11/3/2010 1:36:28 PM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to CALDIGR2) Post #: 3

RE: more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 1:57:00 PM    CALDIGR2 Posts: 2264 Joined: 6/20/2005 Status: offline [Awaiting Approval]??? What is THAT nonsense? _____________________________ Dig no privy before it's time. (in reply to CALDIGR2) Post #: 4

RE: more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 2:55:41 PM    Admin   Posts: 307 Joined: 10/21/2002 From: Near London England Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: CALDIGR2 [Awaiting Approval]??? What is THAT nonsense? That nonsense as you call it is there for a reason.  This section SCAMS and FRAUDS is more open than most to malicious, false or defamatory statements, particularly from new Members. There is a history of forums being shut down by their hosting company for allowing such statements or individuals being sued for libel for making them, hence posts in this section are moderated. Think about it.    (in reply to CALDIGR2) Post #: 5

RE: more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 2:57:47 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11432 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline As I understand it posts made in the SCAMS AND FRAUDS section must be approved before they get posted. I suppose the idea is it gives the site owner some slight protection against liable law suits if people post stuff that is not really a scam. oh I see you got a real answer as I was posting my best guess < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 11/3/2010 3:00:47 PM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to CALDIGR2) Post #: 6

RE: more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 2:59:29 PM    woody Posts: 3641 Joined: 10/29/2002 From: Gilmanton, New Hampshire Status: offline Yes, that is true, Matt, and the admin or moderators must approve each post before it goes into public domain. _____________________________ Woody (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 7

RE: more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 5:18:31 PM    Poison_Us Posts: 2954 Joined: 5/27/2009 From: Savannah, Ga. Status: offline Didn't we discuss this some months ago for this exact same seller of "excogitated" labels?  This is more of misleading rather than scam via big, obscure wording. _____________________________ Poison Us Member: APBCA ( www.poisonbottleclub.org ) Visit Us @: www.poisonousaddiction.com Looking for digging partners in/near Savannah. Be a friend. Give the "GIFT" of Poison. (in reply to woody) Post #: 8

RE: more fake labels. - 11/3/2010 6:28:18 PM    GuntherHess Posts: 11432 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline I try to post about it every so often. As I said , I get a number of emails from people asking me if these bottles are original (I guess they dont own a dictionary?) Anyway I think its a scam and is designed to cheat the unwary. If they were selling legitamate reproductions they would make it clear. Junk like this hurts the bottle collecting community. If I decided to sell "excogitated" Rolex watches I bet Fleabay would have a problem with that. < Message edited by GuntherHess -- 11/3/2010 6:30:24 PM > _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to Poison_Us) Post #: 9

RE: more fake labels. - 11/4/2010 10:18:14 AM    Poison_Us Posts: 2954 Joined: 5/27/2009 From: Savannah, Ga. Status: offline I whole heatedly agree. _____________________________ Poison Us Member: APBCA ( www.poisonbottleclub.org ) Visit Us @: www.poisonousaddiction.com Looking for digging partners in/near Savannah. Be a friend. Give the "GIFT" of Poison. (in reply to GuntherHess) Post #: 10

RE: more fake labels. - 11/5/2010 1:57:46 AM    rockbot Posts: 3477 Joined: 6/17/2009 From: Hilo, Hawaii Status: offline Very informative post. Deception is mostly a human trait, unless you are a predator insect. _____________________________ " Politicians are like diapers, they need to be changed often, and for the same reason" Samuel Clemens (in reply to Poison_Us) Post #: 11

RE: more fake labels. - 11/9/2010 2:24:12 AM    druggistnut Posts: 1148 Joined: 1/7/2006 From: Otisville, Michigan Status: offline If you look closely, she states right in the durned writeup that her "excogitated" labels were copyrighted in 2008 (but don't you dare copy them). What kills me are all the terms she throws around, for instance, where she discusses casting lines (seams) and the history of molds and glass. Whitehall-Tatum was the first glass factory? The cork and its label were obviously charred, but it looks great. Bill _____________________________ Michigan drugstore bottles/dose glasses, jugs, etc... Any paper from Mich drugstores, pre 1900. Michigan hutches. Anything unusual from Michigan, i.e., paper from bottlers, etc... Buy or trade President-Flint, Michigan FOHBC Club (in reply to rockbot) Post #: 12

RE: more fake labels. - 11/13/2010 5:23:51 AM    cowseatmaize Posts: 6432 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Eastern Northwest West Central area of Mass Status: offline My excogitated labels have been granted US Copyright (2008), and may not be reproduced in whole or part without written permission." If they were marked as such it wouldn't be as bad. You could tell on examination and the buyer couldn't pass it on as easily. I have my doubts the are and without the © on it I'll make as many as I want to. _____________________________ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Eric (in reply to druggistnut) Post #: 13

RE: more fake labels. - 11/15/2010 1:49:07 AM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9791 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: offline What a load of %*&@... _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 14

RE: more fake labels. - 11/15/2010 8:41:25 AM    bottle_head9 Posts: 1151 Joined: 4/3/2009 From: new england Status: offline They sold a cannabin one, (cannabis, pot, weed) for $108.00 < Message edited by bottle_head9 -- 11/15/2010 8:42:46 AM > (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 15

RE: more fake labels. - 11/15/2010 8:59:44 AM    Poison_Us Posts: 2954 Joined: 5/27/2009 From: Savannah, Ga. Status: offline Even though we all don't agree with what they are doing, the labels do look impressive....in artwork and design.  They would do well in the movie prop business (if more bottles were used in movies of a by gone era) _____________________________ Poison Us Member: APBCA ( www.poisonbottleclub.org ) Visit Us @: www.poisonousaddiction.com Looking for digging partners in/near Savannah. Be a friend. Give the "GIFT" of Poison. (in reply to bottle_head9) Post #: 16

RE: more fake labels. - 3/8/2011 8:55:25 PM    ecotramper412   Posts: 166 Joined: 9/8/2009 From: NYC Suburbs Status: offline Just wanted to post that these are still out there... sneaky http://cgi.ebay.com/CANNABIS-BOTTLE-SKULL-CROSSBONES-Marijuana-empty-/330538638692?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf5a35d64 (in reply to Poison_Us) Post #: 17

RE: more fake labels. - 3/25/2011 3:27:46 PM    cowseatmaize Posts: 6432 Joined: 12/2/2004 From: Eastern Northwest West Central area of Mass Status: offline Yet even more very small 1 3/8" but that seams wrong. _____________________________ Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati Eric (in reply to ecotramper412) Post #: 18

RE: more fake labels. - 3/25/2011 5:52:33 PM    coboltmoon Posts: 581 Joined: 4/17/2009 Status: offline More fuel for the fire. The Granny Fakes are being sold as hinge molds when they are not. _____________________________ Please visit my Ebay Bottle Store http://stores.ebay.com/CobaltMoon Old Antique Bottle Website http://oldantiquebottle.com (in reply to cowseatmaize) Post #: 19

RE: more fake labels. - 7/10/2011 8:29:39 AM    GuntherHess Posts: 11432 Joined: 12/13/2004 From: Frederick Maryland Status: offline Granny has a third Fleabay name for her fake stuff. http://cgi.ebay.com/COCAINE-BOTTLE-poison-skull-crossbones-/110712277016?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19c6f74818 Seems fake bottles is becoming a who cottage industry there in Iowa. _____________________________ FREE Online Medicine Guide - http://www.antiquemedicines.com/MedicineNexus/Nexus.htm Web Site - http://antiquemedicines.com Email : mknapp@antiquemedicines.com (in reply to coboltmoon) Post #: 20

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