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numerous bar jars - 7/29/2008 2:15:41 PM    arthur   Posts: 476 Joined: 5/15/2008 From: new river valley VA/WVA border Status: offline Numerous bar jars that I am cleaning shoe this label with a slightly different loop.  Is this where it was molded or just another variation of the 3L Attachment (1) _____________________________ The underwater world has yet to be explored http://www.geocities.com/docdocdoc@rocketmail.com/arthursbottles.html Post #: 1

RE: numerous bar jars - 7/29/2008 2:16:37 PM    arthur   Posts: 476 Joined: 5/15/2008 From: new river valley VA/WVA border Status: offline 2 Attachment (1) _____________________________ The underwater world has yet to be explored http://www.geocities.com/docdocdoc@rocketmail.com/arthursbottles.html (in reply to arthur) Post #: 2

RE: numerous bar jars - 7/29/2008 2:17:25 PM    arthur   Posts: 476 Joined: 5/15/2008 From: new river valley VA/WVA border Status: offline 3 Attachment (1) _____________________________ The underwater world has yet to be explored http://www.geocities.com/docdocdoc@rocketmail.com/arthursbottles.html (in reply to arthur) Post #: 3

RE: numerous bar jars - 7/29/2008 4:02:44 PM    coreya   Posts: 52 Joined: 4/30/2007 Status: offline All are variations of the 3 L jars #234 or 193  in the red book. hope this helps < Message edited by coreya -- 7/29/2008 4:04:08 PM > (in reply to arthur) Post #: 4

RE: numerous bar jars - 7/29/2008 4:20:23 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 1693 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline A lot of the appeal (to me) of the ball jars are the variety you get from these moulds being individually hand worked. _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to coreya) Post #: 5

RE: numerous bar jars - 7/31/2008 12:33:01 PM    bobclay   Posts: 310 Joined: 1/7/2006 Status: offline Hi Arthur and all, Almost all of the moulds for the 3-L type jars were hand cut so there are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of slightly differing varients. It would be impossible to list them all, and even harder to try to describe/name some of them. For example we have the "Billy" MASON, the "Balle" MASON, the "Balls" MASON, the "artistic loop" types, the "lazy L" types, and the "sperm underscore" to name just a few that actually have names attached to them. One could amass a pretty neat collection of the #234 or #193 jars alone.   Bob (edited) BTW, the first jar pictured is one called the "artistic loop", with the little upstroke that flattens out prior to starting the loop. < Message edited by bobclay -- 8/1/2008 2:04:29 AM > (in reply to arthur) Post #: 6

RE: numerous bar jars - 7/31/2008 3:37:26 PM    glass man Posts: 1820 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: online SPERM UNDERSCORE? Not being nasty,but would truly like to know what that is. _____________________________ I know You've got mountains that you think you cannot climb Your skies are dark You think the sun won't shine Case you don't know The WORD OF GOD is true! ALL HE PROMISED HE WILL DO IT FOR YOU! JESUS IS THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD TODAY JESUS IS THE WAY! (in reply to bobclay) Post #: 7

RE: numerous bar jars - 7/31/2008 7:17:29 PM    bobclay   Posts: 310 Joined: 1/7/2006 Status: offline The "sperm jar" or "sperm underscore" is the name assigned to a particular embossing by the NC collector that reported it first to Granny Kath many years ago. Basically, the final l isn't connected to the loop or underscore and makes the underscore and loop look like a sperm. I've seen them in aqua and blue and here's a couple shots of a real pretty honey amber one I had: http://balljarcollectorscommunitycenter.yuku.com/topic/1061 Bob (in reply to arthur) Post #: 8

RE: numerous bar jars - 8/1/2008 1:47:32 PM    glass man Posts: 1820 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: online THANK YOU VERY MUCH! MAN,WHAT A GREAT AMBER JAR. I BET YOU MISS IT. _____________________________ I know You've got mountains that you think you cannot climb Your skies are dark You think the sun won't shine Case you don't know The WORD OF GOD is true! ALL HE PROMISED HE WILL DO IT FOR YOU! JESUS IS THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD TODAY JESUS IS THE WAY! (in reply to bobclay) Post #: 9

RE: numerous bar jars - 8/1/2008 8:02:27 PM    bobclay   Posts: 310 Joined: 1/7/2006 Status: offline Hi glassman, For pure eye appeal, that quart was probably the prettiest I had. The amber pint was the one that just killed me when I had to sell and was one of the last to go. Here are some nice quart Balll MASON jars: http://balljarcollectorscommunitycenter.yuku.com/topic/1060?page=1 The nearly black one in the center will most likely be coming up for auction again soon as a part of the Bettinghaus collection being dispersed by North American Glass Auctions, ie. Greg Spurgeon. The Bettinghauses bought many of my jars and it's been kinda nice seeing some "old friends" again when they come up for sale.  Bob  (in reply to arthur) Post #: 10

RE: numerous bar jars - 8/2/2008 3:10:57 PM    glass man Posts: 1820 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: online FAR OUT!!! At one point I was gonna collect just quart ball mason jars and see how many variations / colors I could get. I couldn't do it because I love all bottles too much! THANK YOU FOR THE PICTURES!! Will try to keep an eye out for the black one,want to see what it goes for. < Message edited by glass man -- 8/2/2008 3:12:42 PM > _____________________________ I know You've got mountains that you think you cannot climb Your skies are dark You think the sun won't shine Case you don't know The WORD OF GOD is true! ALL HE PROMISED HE WILL DO IT FOR YOU! JESUS IS THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD TODAY JESUS IS THE WAY! (in reply to bobclay) Post #: 11

RE: numerous bar jars - 8/5/2008 12:39:35 AM    bobclay   Posts: 310 Joined: 1/7/2006 Status: offline As if on cue, here is the auction for the black olive Balll MASON: http://www.gregspurgeon.com/auction/detail.asp?id=542&pic=1#img It will be interesting to see where it ends up, it is a superb colored jar and I've seen no Ball jar any darker. I've got some backlit pics on my other computer, I'll see if I can find them. The swirling is gorgeous.  :) Bob (in reply to arthur) Post #: 12

RE: numerous bar jars - 8/5/2008 10:28:41 PM    glass man Posts: 1820 Joined: 1/30/2008 From: GEORGIA Status: online THANK ,THAT BLACK/OLIVE JAR WOULD MAKE ANY ONE PROUD TO HAVE!!! _____________________________ I know You've got mountains that you think you cannot climb Your skies are dark You think the sun won't shine Case you don't know The WORD OF GOD is true! ALL HE PROMISED HE WILL DO IT FOR YOU! JESUS IS THE ANSWER FOR THE WORLD TODAY JESUS IS THE WAY! (in reply to bobclay) Post #: 13

RE: numerous bar jars - 8/6/2008 9:01:38 PM    bobclay   Posts: 310 Joined: 1/7/2006 Status: offline Here's a pic (but not a good one) of the black olive jar (far right) sitting in a sun blasted window with a deep red amber quart and an amber pint. The sun was so bright the amber pint looks almost yellow and the black jar is still nearly opaque but you can see some of the massive swirling. http://home.earthlink.net/~raclay/nice.jpg  Bob < Message edited by bobclay -- 8/6/2008 9:03:58 PM > (in reply to glass man) Post #: 14

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