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pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 2:06:09 PM   
reptilekeeper

 

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Status: offline 		I posted for some info on a KKK medallion I found a few weeks back...I noticed the post has been pulled. I am sorry if I offended anyone with the post...not my intention!

I must say that it has been hell trying to find out anything about it...may be BAD history...but it is US History.

Again I appolagize if the post offended anyone!
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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 2:26:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm pretty sure it wasn't the post itself.  Just one of those things that people can get very opinionated and upset about.  Probably just preventative maintenance.  There's nothing in this world I hate more then racism and bigotry, but KKK and Nazi paraphernalia are US and world history and have their place in collections and museums.  What WW2 collection would be complete without a Nazi armband or Hitler's Youth dagger, ya know.  I'd personally smash any KKK stuff I ever found.

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 2:30:12 PM   
coreya


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Status: offline 		it is a shame when items of historical importance or that shape a time period no matter how repulsive cant be shown and discussed. As history is re-written by the politicaly correct crowd we will forget the lesons of the past and the future will be twice as bad. just my humble opinion!

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 4:09:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey Louis,

I'm pretty sure it had nothing to do with your initial post. Which, if I remember correctly, did not have a photo of your find attached. Maybe if you post a picture this time, it can be viewed as an historical artifact, and not an op-ed soapbox...




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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 5:01:01 PM   
bawtils

 

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Status: offline 		It is a way of sterilizing the way we think. It is "MY" forum and I will not allow you to speak your mind. I want you to play by "MY" rules and not have a voice. Although I do not agree with the KKK or anyone that is affiliated with the group, I hate that a moderator uses this to suppress the negative. I think that we are all adults here and I feel that everyone should be able to express their own thoughts. AS a mass, we police the way we all feel about any given subject. Book burnings come to mind when I see this. The moderator is doing a disservice to the way things work otherwise. Sorry, but the truth often hurts.

This is coming from someone born and raised from Mississippi. I definitely do not agree or sympathize with the KKK, but I do believe in our Constitution and better yet, I hate feeling like I am being babysat. We are all adults here, so act like it.

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 5:18:32 PM   
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Status: online 		As the alltime leading post's are banned and member get's banned member,it does'nt take a whole lot to get banned or have your post pulled here at the forum.I can see why some of my attempt at humor posts were banned but from what you describe there was no harm done by you here.As you stated it is part of our US history and should be able to be discussed openly. I cant imagine part of your post asking if any of the current forum members were in the klan and had they ever seen this medalion at a meeting they had possibly attended? That would have qualified you for a banned member award or at least a nomination. Keep posting reptilekeeper,Question for you, what kind of reptiles do you have.I have a 2 and a half foot circumference snapper turtle in my back yard pond that is eating all the koi ,Goldfish and Frogs.My son wants to bring back some gekos from Florida to New Jersey here.I told him I am not going to be charged with interstate transportation of an insurance company endangered species.

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 8:29:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		The rules of the forum are clear. People had to agree to them to join.
The moderators do not moderate too much or too little.
I see no problems.

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 9:03:42 PM   
woody


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Status: offline 		I deleted the post in question because two forum members were about to start WWIII.
If you want to post the topic again, then, by all means do it.
If it gets out of hand with name calling and beligerancy, then I will have to do what moderators do.

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 9:19:02 PM   
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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 9:21:36 PM   
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Dignity and decency will prevail here, or else I am gone....!


gonna miss you man

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 9:26:00 PM   
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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 9:34:01 PM   
OsiaBoyce


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Status: offline 		Now that's no way for people to act is it?

< Message edited by OsiaBoyce -- 3/17/2010 9:37:58 PM >

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/17/2010 10:13:35 PM   
haelix

 

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Status: offline 		I think we got away from the question.
What is it? , and is it worth anything?,ever saw one of there?
its a chunk of brass, and never harmed anyone, It is collectable by the people who collect them and some have never saw such a thing, It brings up negative feelings in some and brings back memories in others.
Personally I Like to believe in the first amendment giving everyone the freedom of speech , not just the ones I agree with, In America you CAN be a racist or not, you can hate or love who you want with out being put to death by the government for doing so.
GOD bless America , and the people who dig for bottles

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/18/2010 9:36:13 AM   
coreya


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Status: offline 		just a quick thought, why not remove the ones causing the problem and leave the rest? Punish the majority because of the minority gee sounds like congress!!

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/18/2010 10:05:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: haelix

In America you CAN be a racist or not, you can hate or love who you want with out being put to death by the government for doing so.



Sad but true.  I'd gladly knock off every last racist piece of crap I came across.  With a smile on my face.  I'd make a freakin holiday out of it.  Even Albert Einstein said that racism and pejudice will be the downfall of mankind.  I'm pretty sure he was no dummy. 

quote:

just a quick thought, why not remove the ones causing the problem and leave the rest? Punish the majority because of the minority gee sounds like congress!!


Like I said first.  Most likely taking steps to prevent problems.  But why remove the whole post?  Because Admin or a moderator wanted to, that's why, period.  No need to make a big fuss about it.  If you want a forum that allows garbage just because "Hey, it's our first amendment right" then by all means create one, moderate one, and pay for one.  Otherwise, reread the agreement we ALL agreed to when we joined and quit acting like dummies. 

PS:  Anyone else seen that movie Capitalism: A Love Story by Michael Moore?  Great flick.  Yep, I'm one of those bozos.

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/18/2010 10:29:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey People,
I believe in free speech. There is a time and a place for everything, though. This is probably not the best place to argue about racial inequities. This is a bottle forum. When people talk about racism, some people are going to get understandably upset. If that forces the Admin to pull a post, it is a reflection of our failure to be civil with each other - not a symbol that Admin does not believe in free speech. It's up to us. If we discuss the artifact and ease up on the rhetoric against members who don't agree with us, posts will stay posted. God Bless America. 

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/18/2010 12:11:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's OK to agree to disagree with each other as long as it's in a civil manner.
When it comes to the point of where there is disrespect/conflict with another forum member then the moderator will function as he/she is supposed to.
To resolve conflict as to not create animosity between each other.
We can all try to get along with each other and respect each others opinion, whether or not it agrees with yours.
But, when it gets to a boiling point and it translates into nothing but a ****ing match, then, that is where I will come into play as referee.


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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/18/2010 12:31:46 PM   
OsiaBoyce


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[/quote]

Sad but true.  I'd gladly knock off every last racist piece of crap I came across.  With a smile on my face.  I'd make a freakin holiday out of it. 


Nothing makes you feel quite as good as imposing your values on others.






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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/18/2010 12:42:24 PM   
OsiaBoyce


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I bet these people felt the same way. Praise be.

"With a smile on my face and happiness in my heart, I done things to...............

< Message edited by OsiaBoyce -- 3/18/2010 12:43:45 PM >

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RE: pulled my post off? - 3/18/2010 12:44:01 PM   
Dabeel


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quote:

It's OK to agree to disagree with each other as long as it's in a civil manner.
When it comes to the point of where there is disrespect/conflict with another forum member then the moderator will function as he/she is supposed to.
To resolve conflict as to not create animosity between each other.
We can all try to get along with each other and respect each others opinion, whether or not it agrees with yours.
But, when it gets to a boiling point and it translates into nothing but a ****ing match, then, that is where I will come into play as referee.


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I think Woody is a great moderator as he so accurately described his role above.
Good job Woody!


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