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reproduction? - 1/31/2007 7:39:30 PM    mikmis   Posts: 379 Joined: 11/16/2006 Status: offline is this a reproduction flask ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-FLASH-DOYOTTVILLE-GLASS-WORKS-BOTTLE_W0QQitemZ260082286765QQihZ016QQcategoryZ13910QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem _____________________________ michael Post #: 1

RE: reproduction? - 1/31/2007 9:30:29 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 2020 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline MIKMIS...seems he cut the top of the flask off , making an ID more difficult. These have been reproduced several times in an assortment of colors and neck/mouth finishes. I checked his other items: a Clevenger Bros. reproduction and a Lincoln-Malice Towards None. The Lincoln was made around the time of the Civil War Centennial, supposedly by LE Smith Glass. Given these two are not authentic, logic would indicate the Dyottville also isn't. BUT - hard to tell with but a single pic ta go on and the neck being "cut-off." in that pic. Ask him to post more & better pix. _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc...and, Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to mikmis) Post #: 2

RE: reproduction? - 1/31/2007 11:55:15 PM    sewellbottleman Posts: 413 Joined: 1/29/2007 From: Mantua Township/Sewell section Status: offline Michael here is a picture of a original Washington faher of his country and Taylor never surrenders. Attachment (1) (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 3

RE: reproduction? - 2/1/2007 12:00:01 AM    sewellbottleman Posts: 413 Joined: 1/29/2007 From: Mantua Township/Sewell section Status: offline Hey did you like my spelling of the word father.Sounds like in the Austin Powers movie when goldmember says his FAHJA! Attachment (1) (in reply to sewellbottleman) Post #: 4

RE: reproduction? - 2/1/2007 12:06:13 AM    sewellbottleman Posts: 413 Joined: 1/29/2007 From: Mantua Township/Sewell section Status: offline On these original Dyottville bottles 90 percent of the time they have a small pontil.The pictures of this bottle are from one that I purchased off of ebay 2 weeks ago.Its probably the best bottle I have found on ebay Attachment (1) (in reply to sewellbottleman) Post #: 5

RE: reproduction? - 2/1/2007 12:07:35 AM    mikmis   Posts: 379 Joined: 11/16/2006 Status: offline thanks guys , all of the clevenger flasks that ive seen  say dyottvill glassworks philadelphia pa.just above where it says washington father of his country.this one is just like the clevengers but were there any of the origional ones with those same two lines embossed on the washington side? _____________________________ michael (in reply to sewellbottleman) Post #: 6

RE: reproduction? - 2/1/2007 12:09:54 AM    mikmis   Posts: 379 Joined: 11/16/2006 Status: offline that sure is a nice one steve !!! _____________________________ michael (in reply to mikmis) Post #: 7

RE: reproduction? - 2/1/2007 12:19:11 AM    sewellbottleman Posts: 413 Joined: 1/29/2007 From: Mantua Township/Sewell section Status: offline Michael on mine Philadelphia is spelled like all of the old time bottles from philly( philada). also the clevengers have only 3 buttons on Taylors uniform jacket bust. Originals have 4.The embossing (Dyottville Glass Works Philada) is only on 1 side the Taylor side  (in reply to mikmis) Post #: 8

RE: reproduction? - 2/1/2007 9:58:52 AM    cobaltbot Posts: 1693 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline I found a shard of one of these on my property recently and it looks like it has 5 buttons? _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to sewellbottleman) Post #: 9

RE: reproduction? - 2/1/2007 5:12:32 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 2020 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline STEVE...good info. COBALT...GI-38, GI-39,  and GI-40c have Taylor with 5 buttons. GI-39a has Taylor with no buttons. The remainder do have 4 buttons. There are so many variations of this flask that a fellow could have a collection solely of them. And that doesn't include  all the color variations, nor the different neck/mouth finishes. _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc...and, Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 10

RE: reproduction? - 2/1/2007 8:06:34 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 1693 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline Thanks!  The shard is aqua so it could have been any of those style numbers you mentioned? I dug it with old stuff so I know it wasn't a repro. < Message edited by cobaltbot -- 2/1/2007 8:37:31 PM > _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 11

RE: reproduction? - 2/2/2007 4:32:52 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 2020 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline COBALT...yes it could have been either of those McKearin #s. Got some bad news: may be uplifting and mebbe not. Seems I have what I know is a Clevenger repro and Taylor has 4 buttons. Another I have shows where a button was peened out, leaving but three. Yet another shows indistinguishable bumps and are hard to count...It is also smooth based , whereas the previous noted two have a circular hole in the base center...(simulated pontil)....sheesh. And, the smooth based flask is lacking the Dyottville inscription... _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc...and, Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to cobaltbot) Post #: 12

RE: reproduction? - 2/2/2007 8:16:22 PM    cobaltbot Posts: 1693 Joined: 4/7/2006 From: Delta, PA Status: offline Thanks, I would like to find more pieces of this flask but I guess they are spread out. _____________________________ My tombstone will read: He went out for a walk and never came back.... (in reply to whiskeyman) Post #: 13

RE: reproduction? - 2/3/2007 12:45:12 AM    huffmnd   Posts: 372 Joined: 8/8/2005 From: Sparta Tennessee Status: offline I am very far from being an expert on these but the color of that bottle really has me thinking reproduction. (in reply to mikmis) Post #: 14

RE: reproduction? - 2/11/2007 12:12:00 PM    whiskeyman Posts: 2020 Joined: 4/17/2005 From: NE TENN-SW VA Status: offline HUFF...this is one flask that was originally made in a variety of colors, so color is not always an indication of a reproduction. Honey amber, Cornflower blue, Sapphire blue (medium), Blue - violet tone, Emerald green, Puce - medium, Puce - deep, Amethyst, Clear green, Olive yellow, Pale shaded amber, Yellow green, Aquamarine, Deep wine or claret, Sage green, Light sapphire blue, Pale yellow green, Olive amber, Clear golden amber, Sapphire blue- violet tone, Amber - medium. And possibly other variations of color have been documented since McKearin & Wilson published their book in 1978. _____________________________ * Member: Bristol Historical Assoc...and, Friends of Steeles Creek Nature Center & Park President: Bristol Tenn-Va Bottle Club Author of: Spirits & Medicinal Bottles of Bristol,TN-VA. My WebSite: www.bristol-tenn-va-bottles.com (in reply to huffmnd) Post #: 15

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