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train engine bottle information - 1/11/2005 5:30:46 AM   
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Can anyone tell me any information on this glass train engine bottle?
I dug it up in my back yard. There is still some mud inside. I didn't want to scrub it too hard.
The bottle is clear with a slight " carnivale glass" sheen.
The bottle also stands on its end and has a cork type opening.
It is 2 3/4" long, 1 1/4" tall and 7/8" wide.
There is a seem in the bottle and some half worn away letters on the bottom.

3 DR
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S. J. CO.

I'm very curious about it's original use, origin and value.




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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/11/2005 8:14:11 AM   
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It was probably a candy container.

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/11/2005 10:19:20 AM   
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Sweet little bottle, rogerdrake! I'd say it was a candy container as well, even though most candy containers of that type were in two halves (base and cover). Hope you can make some other nice discoveries in your backyard!

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/11/2005 10:53:16 AM   
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On second thought, after noticing the size, I'd say it was probably an ink bottle.
That particular size would seem to be too small for most candy containers I've seen.

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/11/2005 3:00:09 PM   
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Bottle pricing guide by Hugh Cleveland (1993)
Picture shows same as yours
Candy Clear 4 1/2"
$8.00 to $12.00 but I would guess more value due to age of pricing book

Also not carnival glass, coloring may be from the exposure to earth (minerals) and water.

Dave

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/11/2005 3:10:03 PM   
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The problem is that his container is only 2 3/4" long, hence I think it is too small for a candy container.

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/11/2005 5:18:50 PM   
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Whew, I'd have to agree with both of you here. If Dave has a picture, then maybe measurement is wrong? Woody is right about that being a bit small for candy, from my limited experience. Or could it have been a Salesman's sample? Very interesting indeed. Also I agree about weathering giving the iridescence. Kind of looks like the Canada Dry Carnival glass.
best.
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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/12/2005 1:09:45 AM   
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Hey Dave E...

I have a 2004 Hugh Cleveland, updated..my book shows $65 to $75 for 4 inch clear candy train...I don't think it is a candy either...unless was minature or sample...
but it is beautiful anyway regardless and a neat find.

The Doc...

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/13/2005 10:30:39 PM   
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You are right Woody, I to missed the small size.
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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/15/2005 4:09:38 AM   
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This is a poser,all right!
It seems too small for a candy yet it appears that the mouth is at the back of the engine cab, and that the bottle can't stand on the cowcatcher up front-so it can't be an ink.The smokestack can't have a big enough opening for a typical pen nib if the bottle is only 7/8" wide the stack opening can't be more than 1/4".(allowing for the glass thickness.)So what is it? I'll have to go with Doc and S.C.,miniature or sample candy container.

Neat little bottle!

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/15/2005 5:08:58 AM   
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G'day

Tend to think that it is a sample candy bottle - I have seen later types (1940-50's) with metal cap at rear of engine.

Cheers,

Dirranbandi

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/20/2005 5:33:35 PM   
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Thank you, Everyone that responed to my posting!
I have decided to try and sell this bottle.
I have posted it for sale on E-Bay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3777459208

This is an incredible message board and Website.
I hope it doesn't seem like I'm using it as a selling tool.
I just thought you'll would be interested in knowing.
Thank you again,
Roger Drake

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RE: train engine bottle information - 1/20/2005 7:33:42 PM   
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Well-since you decided to go ebay (which is cool-we all want the big one) can you update us on what you found out and how you did? wendy

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