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trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/4/2011 3:11:33 PM   
ilyaz

 

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Status: offline 		OK, so I decided to clean up this canteen (http://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/anything-interesting-in-this-collection%3F/m-462400/tm.htm) a bit more to try to figure out what it is. Right in the middle on one side saw a logo mostly covered by iron rust dust that got glues to the canteen. Cleaned as much as I could with a small knife and here's what I got:


So two questions:
1. Does anyone recognize the logo? On the top all I could read was "EED FIVE YEARS" but pretty much nothing else. Maybe the last letter inside the circle is an O or a C.
2. Can you recommend a way of gently cleaning off the rest of the iron rust to try to read the rest of the logo?

A couple of extra photos here (http://s941.photobucket.com/albums/ad252/ilyaz73/Canteen%20logo/) but they are not much better.

Thanks!

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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/4/2011 3:49:24 PM   
ilyaz

 

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Status: offline 		UPDATE: I gave this to my son and he could decipher more. The word in the middle must be "CELLO". I think it's a canteen similar to this (at least the logo is similar): http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANTIQUE-CELLO-HOT-WATER-BOTTLE-1912-/320784441931?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4ab03e224b#ht_500wt_1413

I still would like to know how to clean it up to try reading off the rest.

Thanks.!


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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/4/2011 6:03:58 PM   
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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/5/2011 12:06:55 AM   
ilyaz

 

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Status: offline 		UPDATE #2: I think I found exactly how this canteen looked when it was made: http://www.etsy.com/listing/66091746/cello-metal-water-bottle-with-stopper?ref=sr_gallery_7&ga_includes%5B0%5D=tags&ga_search_query=antique+water+bottle&ga_search_type=all&ga_facet=

Now I just need to clean it a bit and it'll be as good as new...

Seriously, though, is there some type of solution where I can immerse the bottle to remove most of the rust without completely dissolving the remaining brass?

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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/5/2011 4:51:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		Glass bead sandblasting works great on rusty metal things.

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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/5/2011 4:52:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know where live but there are places around here where you can get that done.

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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/5/2011 9:18:31 AM   
ilyaz

 

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Glass bead sandblasting
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ORIGINAL: suzanne

I don't know where live but there are places around here where you can get that done.


Thanks. What type of place offers this surface?

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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/5/2011 5:30:11 PM   
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UPDATE #2: I think I found exactly how this canteen looked when it was made: http://www.etsy.com/listing/66091746/cello-metal-water-bottle-with-stopper?ref=sr_gallery_7&ga_includes%5B0%5D=tags&ga_search_query=antique+water+bottle&ga_search_type=all&ga_facet=

Now I just need to clean it a bit and it'll be as good as new...


You rang, Ilya?

I'd look to the metal finishing / polishing people in your area, if I wanted to go that route. Do you have the top? You might consider posting over @ The Rusty Bunch, as well.

To my mind, a hot water bottle is not a canteen. The patina would suggest copper or brass content to me. It looks pretty far gone from thel focus of your photos. What's the whole thing look like?

Sorry I had to back track.

From the various ones I've seen for sale @ electronic auction, they're not terribly valuable in pretty good condition.

STAMPED "GUARANTEED FIVE YEARS / SANITARY HOT WATER BOTTLE / CELLO / A.S.CAMPBELL CO. / BOSTON / TRADEMARK PAT. NOV 26 1912"

Back in the day, these had a number of uses; warming the bed clothes, stomach ache alleviation, muscle aches, cold feet, etc. Unless Uncle Cello was stashing some of his bathtub gin, I don't believe a drinking vessel was high on the list of uses.

Here's a Cello advertising sheet @ auction, that goes over it's construction, uses, and strong points.







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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/7/2011 8:00:06 PM   
hemihampton

 

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Status: online 		Dip in Oxalic Acid solution. Heres a example. LEON.




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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/8/2011 9:56:00 AM   
ilyaz

 

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Oxalic Acid
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ORIGINAL: hemihampton

Dip in Oxalic Acid solution. Heres a example. LEON.





Thanks Leon. I did a quick search for "Oxalic Acid" and found a few products, e.g. this:

http://www.rockler.com/product.cfm?page=19462&utm_source=amazon&utm_medium=ad&utm_campaign=amazon

Are there different types of OA products and do I need to pick the right one? Or any -- like this one -- will do?




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RE: trying to read the logo -- best way to clean off rust? - 11/8/2011 7:43:04 PM   
hemihampton

 

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Status: online 		Barkeepers Friend & ZUD contain Oxalic Acid. I use the strong concentrated crystaline form but hard to get & highly toxic.  Try using ZUD, Add water to it & make a thick paste out of it. Add the thick paste to rusted area & let sit a few hours. Good Luck. LEON.

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