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very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 3:12:15 PM    coreya Posts: 703 Joined: 4/30/2007 From: Summerfield, Fl Status: offline I got this one at an antique shop for 6.00 only because its so crude, Its only embosed on one side with the picture of washington and the words The Father Of His Country Washington. The base is very thick glass (aprox 1/2 inch) and has lots of debris that look like bits of opal type glass. The glass looks like it was pored in a very cold mold. I've added a bunch of picks but if others are needed just let me know. Would like to know what type of repo it is or if its something else and whats it worth besides 6 bucks? Post #: 1

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 4:44:29 PM    RedGinger Posts: 6542 Joined: 12/7/2007 Status: offline It is very pretty, but my guess is repro.  I bought an historical flask one time at a store near here for $2 on the off chance it could be real.  It had those speckles of different colored paint like your's does.  Let's see what the experts say, though. Taking another look at the pics, I don't see basewear either. < Message edited by RedGinger -- 12/30/2009 4:45:33 PM > _____________________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyVTdY2BI3g (in reply to coreya) Post #: 2

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 5:30:40 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 11900 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online Looks like a Wheaton, that's the lip treatment they do.. here's a link:  http://www.wheatonclub.com/colonialreproductionseries.html < Message edited by cyberdigger -- 12/30/2009 5:34:17 PM > (in reply to RedGinger) Post #: 3

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 6:10:57 PM    RED Matthews Posts: 2268 Joined: 8/2/2008 Status: offline Hi and Thanks cyberdiger for the link.  I have collected a lot of links from the FORUM readings.   I can only say that I prefer the old mouth blown glass and the workmanship that the glass makers had to master. They just spoil the art of finding and appreciate the early forming characteristics of a beautiful old bottles.  It seems ludicrous, but I suppose the gift shops can make some money off of them.  I can't visualize how the glass company can though.  RED M. < Message edited by RED Matthews -- 12/30/2009 6:13:12 PM > _____________________________ http://www.bottlemysteries.com/welcome/ (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 4

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 7:54:47 PM    coreya Posts: 703 Joined: 4/30/2007 From: Summerfield, Fl Status: offline I thought it might be a wheaton when I first saw it but it is so crude were as the wheatons are usually clean and well made. This one is really whittled and the glass is very uneven. This one is 8" high base is 3 3/8 x 2 < Message edited by coreya -- 12/30/2009 7:58:05 PM > (in reply to RED Matthews) Post #: 5

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 7:59:52 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 11900 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online That's true.. the crudeness is the one thing stopping me from telling you with ..authority..  ..that it's a Wheaton... (in reply to coreya) Post #: 6

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 8:04:14 PM    coreya Posts: 703 Joined: 4/30/2007 From: Summerfield, Fl Status: offline Just as a ps to last post, I have a wheaton and this one is aprox 1/4" taller, is much fuller around and washingtons features are more well defined ie hair, cheeks etc also much much cruder. (in reply to coreya) Post #: 7

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 8:55:22 PM    coreya Posts: 703 Joined: 4/30/2007 From: Summerfield, Fl Status: offline here are some pictures of the differences between the wheaton I have and this mystery one. sorry I only have the amber wheaton. (in reply to coreya) Post #: 8

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/30/2009 9:02:04 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 11900 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online Must be a different mold, the bust detail is way different... hmmm..... (in reply to coreya) Post #: 9

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/31/2009 4:27:38 PM    coreya Posts: 703 Joined: 4/30/2007 From: Summerfield, Fl Status: offline No other answers? Should I repost this in another section ie what is it after 1900's ? (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 10

RE: very crude washington flask? - 12/31/2009 8:10:43 PM    coreya Posts: 703 Joined: 4/30/2007 From: Summerfield, Fl Status: offline Just another thing I noticed is that the mold lines end below the lip and circle the lip about 1/2 " below the top, so it appears the lip was applied seperately. The mold lines run down the side of the bottle to just above the base (aprox 1/16" up) Dont know it that means anything (in reply to coreya) Post #: 11

RE: very crude washington flask? - 1/6/2010 11:04:28 PM    coreya Posts: 703 Joined: 4/30/2007 From: Summerfield, Fl Status: offline Is this possible a repo from Italy? Anyone? Any Info? Please. (in reply to coreya) Post #: 12

RE: very crude washington flask? - 1/6/2010 11:14:28 PM    cyberdigger Posts: 11900 Joined: 11/29/2008 From: I 195 @ US 9, NJ USA Status: online I would say that a very deliberate effort was made to have this bottle look crude, but there is nothing authentic looking about it.. as far as repros go, you can't fault it on it's cruditees.. but that  looks like art glass from the 19-60-s to me.. (in reply to coreya) Post #: 13

RE: very crude washington flask? - 1/7/2010 8:21:35 AM    coreya Posts: 703 Joined: 4/30/2007 From: Summerfield, Fl Status: offline thanks again cyberdigger, are there any books or ref materials that are specific to reproductions out there? (in reply to cyberdigger) Post #: 14

RE: very crude washington flask? - 5/19/2010 11:38:26 AM    whiskeyman Posts: 2420 Joined: 4/17/2005 Status: offline I have one of the blue ones and it always puzzled me, due to its crudity, but it is a repro.The seam around the neck is indicative of the early Owens bottle making machines, and is typical for the Italian made repros. (in reply to coreya) Post #: 15

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