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weird rock, pottery waste? - 12/18/2011 3:29:49 PM    VTdigger   Posts: 329 Joined: 4/1/2011 Status: offline A few weeks ago I was taking a walk along side the stream by the Norton pottery stood from 1833-1911 (making pottery until 1894.) I found some pottery shards including a  Julius Norton mark which was 1840's-50s. and also a weird rock about 5 inches long with 4 sides, the top of it has what appears to be glazed with a marbley texture the bottom is a flesh colored brick.  than on one side is more glaze about 2 1/2 inches thick. I'm thinking it was part of the old kilns with some sort of residue that built up over the years. I've included 4 pictures of the most interesting aspects of the rock. Side 1 the top with the glazed look. http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff520/vtdigger/?action=view&current=006-3.jpg _____________________________ If there is a bottle... I will find it. Looking for Local embossed bottles from Bennington VT and Bennington county Post #: 1

RE: weird rock, pottery waste? - 12/18/2011 3:33:15 PM    VTdigger   Posts: 329 Joined: 4/1/2011 Status: offline Side 2 the brick looking bottom. http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff520/vtdigger/?action=view&current=005-2.jpg side 3 Bumpy glazed side http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff520/vtdigger/?action=view&current=004-2.jpg side 4 another end looks kind like it got hot. http://s1239.photobucket.com/albums/ff520/vtdigger/?action=view&current=008.jpg _____________________________ If there is a bottle... I will find it. Looking for Local embossed bottles from Bennington VT and Bennington county (in reply to VTdigger) Post #: 2

RE: weird rock, pottery waste? - 12/18/2011 9:27:47 PM    Bixel   Posts: 731 Joined: 8/30/2004 From: Strathroy, Ontario, Canada Status: offline It could be a "pottery rest", not sure of the correct termination. I have seen bricks, and stones before that are covered with glaze that were used to rest items on while curing, and the excess glaze would drip off, covering the stone or whatever that it was sitting on. _____________________________ Formerly : Insulators Rule! Kyle Collector of Insulators, Ontario marked bottles, railway memorabilia and signs of all sorts (in reply to VTdigger) Post #: 3

RE: weird rock, pottery waste? - 12/18/2011 10:48:01 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9793 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: online Jim,...you made me remember an old brick that I found at the site of one of our early glassworks...It has a shiny once molten coating of glass evenly covering it's top...I noticed it out along my back 40's path last week when i was cutting firewood...Right now there's light snow and I couldn't locate it...when I can I'll get a pic. _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to Bixel) Post #: 4

RE: weird rock, pottery waste? - 12/19/2011 12:05:20 AM    dollarbill Posts: 2728 Joined: 5/6/2005 From: maysville, kentucky Status: offline My guess would be a brick or stone from the floor of a kiln.Were glaze dripped on the floor . Heres one I dug from a mound of pottery shards. bill Attachment (1) < Message edited by dollarbill -- 12/19/2011 12:08:15 AM > (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 5

RE: weird rock, pottery waste? - 12/19/2011 12:06:33 AM    dollarbill Posts: 2728 Joined: 5/6/2005 From: maysville, kentucky Status: offline Looks like glass up close . Attachment (1) (in reply to dollarbill) Post #: 6

RE: weird rock, pottery waste? - 12/23/2011 7:17:20 PM    NYCFlasks Posts: 401 Joined: 9/11/2005 Status: offline Looks like to me from the floor of the kiln.  Remember, the stoneware is salt glazed, and the salt was just thrown in with a shovel.  I have seen pieces with such heavy salt on them that they resemble what you show in your pictures.  It could be a very heavy buildup of salt residue from the glazing process. Now, another thing it could be.  The pottery when it is air dried still retains water in the clay, trapped on a very small scale.  When the fire is first lit, it was burned at a low rate to slowly drive out the water trapped in the clay.  If you ramp up the fire too quickly, you will get a steam explosion,which will demolish the kiln and the surrounding structure (this is also true of large industrial boilers, such as Cleaver Brooks).  This water vapor will condense on the kiln walls and run down the sides, dripping on the pottery (I have a piece in my collection with a large "salt tear" on it) taking salts with it and building up these salts over time on the lower walls. _____________________________ SAYVILLE BOTTLES WANTED !!!!!! (in reply to dollarbill) Post #: 7

RE: Giant potstone? - 12/23/2011 9:16:13 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9793 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: online I finally got out to the back woods while it was still light out,..found this ...(why I had it back there I really don't recollect) This came from the ruins of one of our glassworks...They made bottles at this works...Found it one day while Tom and I were out exploring...Lot's of cool slag glass there too. I know this glass works ultimately burned down,...not sure if this is a result of that, or was part of the crucible for heating up the batchs of glass? Attachment (1) _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to VTdigger) Post #: 8

RE: Giant potstone? - 12/23/2011 9:17:31 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9793 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: online * Attachment (1) _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 9

RE: Giant potstone? - 12/23/2011 9:19:08 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9793 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: online * Attachment (1) _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 10

RE: Giant potstone? - 12/23/2011 9:21:13 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9793 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: online Here you can see the bottle glass pretty good. Almost all of the slag glass we found was this color. Attachment (1) _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 11

RE: Giant potstone? - 12/23/2011 10:26:02 PM    peejrey   Posts: 1596 Joined: 7/4/2010 From: Hickman TN Status: offline quote: ORIGINAL: JOETHECROW Here you can see the bottle glass pretty good. Almost all of the slag glass we found was this color. Do you know what the date was it burned? _____________________________ ___Preston J. Reyome___ ••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••••• Collector of Tennessee Bottle and Labeled Medicines (in reply to JOETHECROW) Post #: 12

RE: Giant potstone? - 12/23/2011 11:02:20 PM    JOETHECROW Posts: 9793 Joined: 9/3/2005 From: Northwestern Pa. (Near scenic Lake Perfidy) Status: online Peej,...don't know for sure, the info is somewhat sketchy on it... _____________________________ Joe ``````````````````````````````````` In the woods we return to reason and faith. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ooTyuRd9zSg&feature=related (in reply to peejrey) Post #: 13

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