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mikepietrello
10-22-2007, 04:11 PM
Hi all,
I picked up a box of bottles out of a barn with a couple of flasks in it. This is one of them.
It has a cornucopia on one side and an urn on the other with a rough pontil mark on the bottom. can anyone tell me the age?
Thanks,
mike

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/7200/966D9B7390F54BE2ACF9E0A037EF7850.jpg

mikepietrello
10-22-2007, 04:12 PM
The top

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/7200/9F77540613A143FD9C346868589A703F.jpg

mikepietrello
10-22-2007, 04:14 PM
The bottom

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/7200/EC8C821464B24A2BAF9AC91A102B9167.jpg

I_dig_bottles
10-22-2007, 05:15 PM
Is that flask RED ?

otgb
10-22-2007, 05:16 PM
looks like a repro

mikepietrello
10-22-2007, 05:21 PM
Could be a repro but the rough pontil is throwing me off. I can't tell if it is dark amber or very dark purple

Tony14
10-22-2007, 05:24 PM
I dont know anything about flasks but the lip on that looks all wrong....im thinkin repro

GuntherHess
10-22-2007, 05:25 PM
there are repros with pontil marks.

RICKJJ59W
10-22-2007, 06:15 PM
If you looked into it more and found out that was real,you would be one lucky dude.but I would have to go with Re pro to.Rick

cowseatmaize
10-22-2007, 07:33 PM
Pairpoint made a repro in 1959 with pontil. Page 687-88 McKearin AB&F&TA

mikepietrello
10-22-2007, 07:35 PM
Here's what I have so far,
The only repros of the cornucopia flask I have found have an eagle on the other side not the urn like this one. I got this one on the Mass/new Hampshire border, and I found this article
The Foster Factories
The small town of Stoddard, located in the hills of Southwestern NH, was the home to numerous glasshouses through the mid 19th century. Joseph Foster, a top glassblower at the Keene-Marlboro Street glassworks, had purchased many of the assets and begun his own operations in Stoddard. His first furnace was located in South Stoddard, and blew many bottles and flasks, some that had originated from the Keene factory molds, such as the Cornucopia[/b]/ Urn flasks and the Eagle/ Cornucopia[/b] flasks, Railroad flasks, as well as blacking bottles, whiskeys, inkwells, medicine/ utility bottles and many demijohns and jars. Although wood and sand were quite plentiful in Stoddard, adequate transportation of the bottles was difficult given the isolated proximity of the town to any railways. Closest shipping points were over 20 miles away. His first furnace burned, and was rebuilt at a different location, and the financial woes continued. Over the next eight years, Foster struggled to make ends meet, and eventually sold off his property and any operations. This would be the end of Joseph Foster’s glass factory in NH, however, his children would play a role in the industry in later years.

Oldtimer
10-22-2007, 07:44 PM
That last pic of the bottom is the giveaway, it's a repro.

But it might still have considerable value even still, as the repro market is getting better and better.

mikepietrello
10-22-2007, 07:48 PM
Thanks Old Timer,Eric and everyone else
It's good to know for sure, I only gave the guy 3 bucks for it so no harm done. there were some other nice ones in the box to but I believe very common.
Thanks so much,
Mike

amblypygi
10-22-2007, 10:09 PM
I'm pretty sure Eric's right and that's a Pairpoint reproduction. I have one with the Pairpoint label on the base that is a similar color (deep amethyst) but it has the grasshopper on one side. The urn side of mine is identical to yours. You got a great deal on it though: it's worth at least ten times what you paid for it. I say that with absolute authority too, because I'll send you a check for $30 for it anytime [:)]

Sean

mikepietrello
10-22-2007, 10:41 PM
Thanks Sean but I think i'll hold on to this one for now.
I don't see a grasshopper on the side, but heres the side with the cornucopia

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/7200/24CB4811D2894DB09FA51026ECEBD66B.jpg

amblypygi
10-22-2007, 10:52 PM
You're wise to hang onto it; the high quality repros will continue to go up in value, especially those blown at Clevenger Brothers and Pairpoint. I mis-spoke earlier, my grashopper flask has the cornucopia on the side, not the urn. It still looks very similar to yours and I'll bet it's pairpoint.

Sean

cowseatmaize
10-23-2007, 08:27 AM
I don't feel like typing the whole thing but the book stated that half the mold was also used on a Sturbridge Village adaptation. Pairpoint may have mix and matched a bunch of varieties from different molds..

amblypygi
10-23-2007, 12:13 PM
That explains it, the cornucopia on mine appears to be the same mold and my grasshopper is the Sturbridge Village adaptation. You can see the true color in the lower left background, it's very difficult to capture.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/1654/15CBF6929B6049C9AB314F3CD9C45799.jpg

amblypygi
10-23-2007, 12:16 PM
It's a nice repro Mike, do let me know if you ever decide to sell or trade it.

Sean

Brains
10-23-2007, 05:41 PM
if those repros are from 1959 or so than they are nice in my opinion. One of my favorite insulators is as new as 1958, same age as the repros so it's all old so it's all good.