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creeper71
06-16-2010, 06:28 PM
I found this Marble in a box of rough gem stones I bought at auction awhile back.. I don't know much about marbles but I'm pretty sure this had a pontil scar an is hand blown..possibly from German...

https://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b17/creeper71/2010_0616ribbonmarble0019.jpg

https://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b17/creeper71/2010_0616ribbonmarble0015.jpg

https://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b17/creeper71/2010_0616ribbonmarble0020.jpg

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Road Dog
06-16-2010, 08:48 PM
4 panel Onionskin. German. Need better pics. Surface of marble looks awfully good. Buffed? Polished? Poles look pretty tight. So, if polished not much. How big is it?

creeper71
06-16-2010, 08:59 PM
haha Roaddog I been checking the forum over at Tnet all day waiting for your reply... I thought it was 1 1/2inches I'm all new to this capliper stuff.. so when I put it in millimeters it is showing around 36.55mm.. I haven't touched the marble in anyways what soever on polishing or any other cleaning method... that is exactly how I found it in the box the day I bought it at auction...

Road Dog
06-16-2010, 09:38 PM
Is there faceting at the pontil end? Polishing greatly effects value that's why I was looking for really close , clear pics. It's a good 150-200 dollar marble if it's as nice as it looks. Maybe a tad more.

creeper71
06-16-2010, 10:03 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

Is there faceting at the pontil end? Polishing greatly effects value that's why I was looking for really close , clear pics. It's a good 150-200 dollar marble if it's as nice as it looks. Maybe a tad more.

I don't understand the term faceting at the pontil end, sorry this is still new to me... I can try to get better pics tommorrow... Hopefully it will be a nice sunny day... Today was overcast probly the reason for such bad pic...

Road Dog
06-16-2010, 10:09 PM
The pontil would have been abit rough. A grinding wheel would have been used to smooth the roughness. Usually see this on the larger Onions. The grinding wheel creates a small area of faceting at the pole.

creeper71
06-16-2010, 10:18 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

The pontil would have been abit rough. A grinding wheel would have been used to smooth the roughness. Usually see this on the larger Onions. The grinding wheel creates a small area of faceting at the pole.

I'm not quite sure what I'm looking for but I do see a dullness at the pontil scars (hope scars is the right term) like there was a grinder taken to it... would this be the faceting your asking about?

Road Dog
06-16-2010, 10:24 PM
Should be at this pole.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4010/0C502B9EEF8B4300AC27B55B3782BB40.jpg

creeper71
06-16-2010, 10:27 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

Should be at this pole.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4010/0C502B9EEF8B4300AC27B55B3782BB40.jpg

yes that is the correct pole an the shadow looking haze at the pole is what I am discribing as faceting... is this correct as being the faceting?

Road Dog
06-16-2010, 10:37 PM
If there is faceting it will be dead center maybe a quarter inch area or so. I remember reading somewhere that faceting was only seen on the older Onions. So, your may not have any.

creeper71
06-16-2010, 10:54 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

If there is faceting it will be dead center maybe a quarter inch area or so. I remember reading somewhere that faceting was only seen on the older Onions. So, your may not have any.

I'm fairly sure it does, I'll try to get better pics tommorrow.... I'm pretty sure I'm seeing grinder marks....

creeper71
06-17-2010, 11:39 AM
ORIGINAL: creeper71



ORIGINAL: Road Dog

If there is faceting it will be dead center maybe a quarter inch area or so. I remember reading somewhere that faceting was only seen on the older Onions. So, your may not have any.

I'm fairly sure it does, I'll try to get better pics tommorrow.... I'm pretty sure I'm seeing grinder marks....



https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/11886/61B40E37C2B0434C84FA4BC7B6DDB7AB.jpg

Road Dog
06-17-2010, 11:49 AM
Nice pic . Not seeing faceting, but not a big deal. I read somewheres that the faceting (grinding of) the pontil area was done at the place of distribution ( say England) rather than at the factory ( say Lauscha Germany) .

creeper71
06-17-2010, 12:01 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

Nice pic . Not seeing faceting, but not a big deal. I read somewheres that the faceting (grinding of) the pontil area was done at the place of distribution ( say England) rather than at the factory ( say Lauscha Germany) .

so the value stays the same? 150-200? have you seen anything that may distract from value on this marble?

Road Dog
06-17-2010, 12:16 PM
If it were mine I wouldn't part with it for under 125.

Staunton Dan
06-17-2010, 12:44 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

If it were mine I wouldn't part with it for under 125.


If it were mine I wouldn't sell it. What a beautiful marble and what a great size. Looks like 36.55mm is about 1-3/8" diameter. Great pictures BTW.

creeper71
06-17-2010, 01:04 PM
ORIGINAL: Staunton Dan



ORIGINAL: Road Dog

If it were mine I wouldn't part with it for under 125.


If it were mine I wouldn't sell it. What a beautiful marble and what a great size. Looks like 36.55mm is about 1-3/8" diameter. Great pictures BTW.

RoadDog thank you for all your help!!!

Dan thank you for converting 36.55 mm to 1-3/8" for me.. I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THE CALIPER.. So if anyone can tell me the proper way to measure the marble ..I will remeasure it.. btw I have a digtal caliper

Thanks again!!!

Road Dog
06-17-2010, 01:10 PM
My digital does both metric and english. I would think yours probably does. It is 1.4389 inches.

creeper71
06-17-2010, 02:01 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

My digital does both metric and english. I would think yours probably does. It is 1.4389 inches.

yes I have both on my digtal also, so would you round this off to 1-1/2'?

Road Dog
06-17-2010, 09:30 PM
No rounding with Marble sizes. Tell them like they are.

creeper71
06-18-2010, 12:06 PM
alright, thank you!

creeper71
06-18-2010, 12:07 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

No rounding with Marble sizes. Tell them like they are.

alright thank you