View Full Version : Labeled Pepsi bottle on eBay...

10-07-2010, 06:17 PM
Looks like a lazer copy to me; especially when you look at the close-up of the label...


10-07-2010, 08:04 PM
How do you like the seller adding at the bottom that an antique is anything over 25 years old?[;)] Probably right after someone called him out in the question asked! I always thought antique meant 100 years old. Guess times are a changing.

10-07-2010, 09:06 PM
looks like its already been flagged as a repro

10-07-2010, 09:40 PM

How do you like the seller adding at the bottom that an antique is anything over 25 years old?[;)]*

When I crossed the border last September, the officer asked me how long it took an item before you can call it an antique (it was a trick question as I was declaring a lot of things as being antiques); my answer was 100 years. And according to him I was right.

According to the eBay seller, I must be a very old antique at 42 years of age!

10-07-2010, 11:16 PM
nostalgia if 42 is a very old antique then my 43 is ancient[:D]

11-19-2010, 02:30 AM
amazing someone would bid on that with all the red flags...like"iam an expert of nothing"
"no gurentees" ect ect

12-08-2010, 01:11 AM
Actually, 30 years is considered antique. However, the VALUE of any antique is derived from it's rarity and of course and individuals' personal connection to it.


12-08-2010, 08:18 PM
I've seen a few price guides that even value this repro at $100 if it comes with the tag and cap. Its a 75th anniversary collectors bottle. They don't show up very often.

12-08-2010, 09:21 PM
Please be aware that an ANTIQUE is considered anything over 25 years old.

where in the world did the seller come up with that?
1985 is the threshold for antiques? I have tee shirts older than that :)
Its amazing the things people come up with.

12-09-2010, 12:12 AM
I think that's just some urban myth that people occasionally "Parrot"...perhaps it's spun off the popular view that a car is a "classic" after 25 years....?

12-09-2010, 02:52 AM
Wiki-tique (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antique) sez, "An antique (Latin: antiquus; old) is an old collectible item. It is collected or desirable because of its age (see definition), beauty, rarity, condition, utility, personal emotional connection, and/or other unique features. It is an object that represents a previous era or time period in human society. It is common practise to define "antique", as applying to objects at least 100 years old. Collectibles are, generally speaking, the possible antiques of the future and generally less than 100 years old..."

"Definition: a work of art, piece of furniture, or decorative object made at an earlier period, and according to many customs laws, at least 100 years ago
Pronunciation: an-teak
Also Known As: items older than 50 years old although the definition is quite subjective in today's antiques market" @ About.com (http://antiques.about.com/od/resourcesforbeginners/g/bldefantique.htm)

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12-09-2010, 08:18 AM
Back in the 70's I remember hearing that American antiques were 75 years and the European was 400, at least for furniture. If that was true than perhaps this was made in a country that was, say 100 years old. 25 sounds quite reasonable as an antique.
I don't remember when US antiques went up to 100 but I imagine that that ruling is also antique now, or at a classic.[:)]

12-09-2010, 02:01 PM
Thanks to U.S. Customs: 100 years it is....

[/align]What is an antique? To answer this deceptively simple question, we've turned to Michael Flanigan (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/appraisers/flanigan_jmichael.html), a Baltimore expert in American furniture who likes to think about such things. In fact, Michael was one who suggested ANTIQUES ROADSHOW create a glossary, so we thought we'd have him introduce the first word in our glossary.
As Michael points out, the word "antique" generally refers to an older object valued because of its aesthetic or historical significance. This loose definition applies to how we use the word in the title of our show.
But to understand the more precise definition of the word used by dealers, Michael talks about American history. He points out that the word's definition changed in the 1930s. Then, as now, true antiques were considered artwork and came in duty-free. However, up until the 1930s the increasingly busy U.S. Customs Office kept facing the hard question: What objects should we classify as authentic antiques?
At the time, the word had different meanings for different people. In European collecting circles, the word could describe an antiquity from ancient Rome or Greece. In the United States, with its much shorter view of history, the word "antique" could describe an object made as recently as the Civil War. Businessmen looking to skirt duties tried to use an even vaguer definition, using the word to describe any beautiful and valued item that was less-than-new.
Seeking clarity (and a guidepost for what to collect duty on), the Customs Office polled dealers for a definition and from these formulated one of its own. Antiques, they concluded, were objects that pre-dated the mass production of objects in the 1830s. Since the defining moment went back about 100 years, the office defined an antique as something made over 100 years ago. Duty was collected on objects younger than the century-old divider, and it still is.
"The beauty of this definition is that it's so elastic," says Michael. As the years move forward, so does the cut-off date that delineates an antique.
"In a stroke of luck, the Customs Service ended up doing us all a favor," says Michael of the new industry standard. "The one-hundred-year mark may be crude, but it's helpful. We tend to think in terms of centuries. To have that as a gauge gives people a sense of time and distance."
The definition also did away with a lot of the arbitrariness that used to go into deciding what objects should be considered antiques.
"It eliminated the subjective judgments," Michael says. "By having a fixed time gauge in the definition, dealers and appraisers no longer had to judge objects by their artistic merit or their historical significance or how they were made. They no longer had to twist themselves into pretzels trying to convince a customer that something truly is an antique."
The definition has stuck and is now one that collectors and dealers use to separate an antique from a collectible (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/glossary/collectible.html). http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/roadshow/images/enddot.gif[/align][/align]-Julie

01-07-2011, 10:17 AM
I think the debate on how old something has to be to be considered an antique is a funny one. Years ago it was always stated that 100 yrs. was an antique. I think as people ran out of quality antiques readily available to collect and huge antique malls popped up along every major interstate the definition became much more liberal. I stop in "antique shops"all the time and wonder where they are hiding the antiques? That is not to say there aren't great collectibles from the mid 1900's,etc. but calling them antiques is a stretch in my opinion, now if you excuse me as I get off of my soapbox I have to go sort through my antique Star Wars action figures.[:D] As far as the Pepsi bottle is concerned, I see a pontil mark so it is definately pre civil war, end of discussion.