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Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 08:58 PM
Ok marble guys this is a serious post.When I first moved into my cuurrent home we remodled it before my wife and I and my oldest daughter ever moved in.This was in 1990.I was ripping the ceiling of the second floor and as I pulled down the horsehair plaster a dryed out bag of something heavy smacked me right on the coconut.It turned out to be a bag of I beleive old marbles.Here are some pictures with some of them looking like they have pontils.I know they are probably just common but I would really like to find out as much information as possible thank you.There are 106 marbles mostly glass but I beleive some clay also.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/64787B98DDE54D7EB74C0B2027C10E7C.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:00 PM
Number two.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/F78A28CB54584314988DF4E83E44139C.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:00 PM
Number 3

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/EB06D421D4F346188F13313C4B9862A8.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:01 PM
Number 4

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/D6E2D6E569894BC89144EF895DD9621C.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:01 PM
Number 5

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/A894C5B537F84B8C9D8B6F3769B9CD39.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:02 PM
Number 6

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/BC8E94AD30174D2D9B7597B22CE28EB7.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:03 PM
Number 7 I like the green one it looks old.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/C81FBADF85BC400C8C863122182E8D2F.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:04 PM
Number 8

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/A7718C24135C4D31BD43234614C2CD30.jpg

cyberdigger
10-13-2010, 09:05 PM
They look like oldies.. I recognize the blue and brown ceramic ones.. I think the "pontil" is where it sat in the kiln.. I bet they'd be delicious in a bowl of milk..

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:05 PM
Number 9 I have decided to goup them by color it might be easier to see them.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/77C6F7AAB0CE4B0B9564A77C09A7CD52.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:06 PM
Number 10

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/8CDD16FBEA9748D3B8CBD11F5D96B0FA.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:07 PM
Number 11

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/347C00253B4B43A883F5EF603C2CF9F9.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:08 PM
Number 12

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/424C0D63864F48DA80B92BB30A7D5526.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:09 PM
Number 13

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/9A3A6D473A434768B7CED671AD616926.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:10 PM
Number 14

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/CCA6CF6833394618A833D63B5049AA42.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:10 PM
Number 15

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/67AC3FC2E6AD44B782CE0203032A9984.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:12 PM
Number 16 Last one I see you snuck in there Chuck you think they are old? Everything you see with a glossy appearance appears to be made of some sort of glass.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/07E8A6952F324E1C870EE41F0351E8EF.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:15 PM
Yes chuck they would be good in a bowl of milk!!

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/992DADE29BC54B06AE1872DFDBFF86FB.jpg

cyberdigger
10-13-2010, 09:21 PM
Are they old?? ??? That sack must have doinked your melon pretty good.. they are ..Victorian era..

JOETHECROW
10-13-2010, 09:28 PM
I'm far from a marble expert Steve,...but I think the glossy ones are glazed stoneware? Are they "Benningtons"...not sure.

cyberdigger
10-13-2010, 09:32 PM
Yeah Bennigans was the first word in my head when I saw this collection.. there was a guy at the flea market who had a small box with around 25 blues and browns, asking $40 for the box.. I was really tempted but I just can't get into marbles.. so I think they are worth something...
https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/upfiles/12005/07E8A6952F324E1C870EE41F0351E8EF.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:33 PM
Well I am 6,2 Chuck so they only fell from 8 feet or a foot and a half into my head.You know what else was up there a pair of Red Ryder gloves,Cowboy hat and amo and ...........................no gun Ralphy youll get a football instead.Honest I did find all of the above but the rifle of course. I did go out to an antique store in Mullica Hill found one and gave it to my policeman brother-inlaw who is lady gaga over this movie.
He went out to Cleveland and saw the playground,Ralphys house,school,Chineese restaurant ect. and came back with a LEG LAMP It must be Italian ? It says FRA-GI-LE.The glossy ones are heavy comparitivley.YOULL SHOOT YOURE EYE OUT KID!![:D]

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/EC82EC55AC8044F3AF242EC39F35432C.jpg

JOETHECROW
10-13-2010, 09:40 PM
ORIGINAL: cyberdigger
I bet they'd be delicious in a bowl of milk..



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https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4459/69CD5213493148D48FF349AC3333C674.jpg

cyberdigger
10-13-2010, 09:40 PM
..6' 2, eh? you sure you weren't down on your knees, or sitting Injun-style? I haven't seen Christmas Story but the holidays are nigh upon us...

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:40 PM
Where are all the marble guys when you ned them.[:@]Oh yeah all gun ho when the new section was announced!![;)] But not a soul in site now[X(]

cyberdigger
10-13-2010, 09:44 PM
..maybe you should put up an ad in the other forums.. I'd hate to think our best marble people are spending the evening in "Digging and Finding" or something..

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 09:45 PM
Chuck this is Christmas story!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mjruvE310Y

Someone has uploaded the entire movie Chuck starting with this one.
Just keep finding the correct numerically next part.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXYDtscZvBQ

cyberdigger
10-13-2010, 09:49 PM
Thanks Steve.. I dunno what I'd do without you.. Merry Christmas!!! [sm=kiss.gif]

JOETHECROW
10-13-2010, 09:49 PM
Charlie?? Really? Never seen Christmas stoty?...It's worth watching.
Steve,..I'm sure Road Dog will be around soon,...He seems to be learned in the ways of marbles....There's also a site,...Land of Marbles,...but I get kinda crosseyed looking on there...[;)]

Road Dog
10-13-2010, 10:18 PM
The glazed ones with the eyes are Benningtons as mentioned. The "Fancy" ones are the best of them. They are the multi-colored ones. Blue and Brown are most common colors. They also come in Green, Black and White. The Fancy types with Pink are the most valuable if you can find them. Benningtons are less common in the 1" to 1 1/2" and harder to find over 1 1/2". The other marbles I see you have are Clays and Dyed Clays. They are old.

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 10:25 PM
Thanks Rory I will probably keep them in an old vase or jelly bowl.

cyberdigger
10-13-2010, 10:29 PM
They'd be nice in a flint glass widemouth camel flask! [8D]

Steve/sewell
10-13-2010, 11:09 PM
Ok Chuck their new home for now.This is a flint glass Jelly bowl late 1700s American.They look Ok for now...................

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/14DCE70713F041D9825BF0D596B07631.jpg

cyberdigger
10-13-2010, 11:13 PM
Splendid! Now a dollop of vanilla ice cream and ..HEAVEN!! COLD AND CRUNCHY...

JOETHECROW
10-13-2010, 11:14 PM
We saved an apothecary jar from the drugstore dig, and we decided that would make a good marble home.....[:D]

One side...

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4459/E169D30E80FB44CEAF771FF971126F75.jpg

JOETHECROW
10-13-2010, 11:16 PM
Other....

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4459/9370AEEE4C8C411F90A510A991A7FFD1.jpg

JOETHECROW
10-13-2010, 11:43 PM
and we just put the plain clays in a midget mason...(I know, boring)[:D] ...Steve,...thanks for sharing your finds...They look good in that jelly bowl. (And thank you for letting us share)...

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4459/E33AD5E6EEC940FCAB9B0B16BD0564AD.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-14-2010, 12:36 AM
Yes I agree Joe we have all lost our jars,bottles and bowls of marbles today!!

Steve/sewell
10-14-2010, 12:40 AM
I thought you meant this Joe my bad sorry.............. really sorry............................................. ..midget mason get it huh?do you get it?midget mason
The midget looks like Micho. Micho was a mason? I thought he was in Ringling Brothers

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/12005/78C27A21ADA14D4FA57006521CE6D938.jpg

LC
10-14-2010, 12:51 AM
I would say you are right Joe , looks like a good many Benningtons as well as some clay marbles, or at least they look to be clay .

JOETHECROW
10-14-2010, 12:51 AM
[sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif] Midget Mason....[8|]

Steve/sewell
10-14-2010, 12:59 AM
Ok what are we dealing with here as far as their age range just curious.

LC
10-14-2010, 01:08 AM
My guess would be between 1870 and 1900 , could be wrong though Steve . I would say that is a close guess .

Steve/sewell
10-14-2010, 07:48 AM
Thank you Louis The man of the house of the people who lived here before us was a well driller by occupation.These were found in the ceiling above his sons bedroom.These could have been located on job sites while he was drilling.My property has a 800 ft running 2 foot wall around the perimeter made of New Jersey bog iron and sandstone which is found in depths usually 10 feet or greater here in the Southern Part of the state.

Road Dog
10-14-2010, 07:49 AM
Pretty good LC and definately not after the start of WWI. Some american companies made the "bennington type" marbles too. So, it pays to look at them two or three times to make sure some of those are not in there.
http://akronmarbles.com/standard_toy_marble.htm

Steve/sewell
10-14-2010, 08:32 AM
They are the marbles I see on the web site,thanks Loius,Joe and Rory for all your help for all your help.............................................. ...........................I cant get the image of the midget mason out of my head.Did they go together to a tailor and the taller one said: I am a 32 long waist 34 he is 16 long 28 inch waist.....................(Clerk)We have a Napolean Boneparte costume we can alter slightly..............................No that wont work how about a cub scout uniform with thicker gold tassels?We can sow on a ladys sequin and .................................Well think of sumin I am sure..Well call you when its ready.

surfaceone
10-15-2010, 04:31 AM
There are 106 marbles mostly glass but I beleive some clay also.

Yo Steverino,

I think you've got that inside out. They're lookin mighty crockery to me.

"BENNINGTON: A glazed stoneware marble, or cockery, also in the historic record as ‘cockies.’ A term used by collectors believing these were manufactured in Bennington, Vermont, of which no records exist and Bennington, VT authorities deny were manufactured there, yet the term still survives in the hobby of collecting marbles. Three types of Bennington marbles; blue glazed, brown glazed (most common) and Bennington Fancy (see.)

BENNINGTON FANCY: A glazed stoneware marble, as above, glazed in multicolored patches as if sponged." From. (http://akronmarbles.com/glossary_of_marble_related_terms.htm)

Apparently the greenies are highly sought after: https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/cvdv/P1000174.jpg From Marble Connection. (http://marbleconnection.invisionzone.com/index.php?showtopic=7572)

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/allen.jpg

Road Dog
10-15-2010, 07:30 AM
Bennington Vermont has (as far as anyone knows) has no connection to these mibs. Even the authorities in Vermont say these were never made there. Bennington was the collector name given to these marbles because of their looking like bennington pottery. These Benningtons Steve shows are probably all German in origin. Complete boxes of these have been found as well with made in germany on the box.

Road Dog
10-15-2010, 08:24 AM
Pic of an original box.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4010/9A702661890D45378D6C9D742F7471B8.jpg

glass man
10-15-2010, 08:00 PM
ORIGINAL: Road Dog

Pic of an original box.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4010/9A702661890D45378D6C9D742F7471B8.jpg




ARE THE MARBLES STILL IN THE BOX ROAD DOG? JAMIE

Road Dog
10-15-2010, 10:29 PM
Yes, they are Jamie. These are not mine. I snagged the pic off Marble Connection.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/4010/243F8F982CD848F7B062F9DFFD3CE6DB.jpg

surfaceone
10-16-2010, 03:19 AM
Hey,

Is it just me, or are there fewer and fewer threads in this Marble forum? I have noticed this a couple times, but said nothing. Are the threads evaporating right out'ta here, or what?

We all voted and got this new forum installed, but we've not loaded it up with goodies yet. Are the older threads making a break for it while we're sleeping or looking the other way?

http://www.antiquephotographics.com/images/ForSale/Actors/act85.jpg

Steve/sewell
10-16-2010, 07:16 AM
Thanks everyone,for your help,I have learned exactly what they are now,and by the newest pictures provided can tell a sizeable portion are German.Thank you all and and I can see why they are collectable.There is one marble out of the bunch the green,that I feel it is made from glass.
Any thoughts to this.

Road Dog
10-16-2010, 08:54 AM
Steve that greeny is glass. Hard to tell what it is since it is so beat.

Road Dog
10-16-2010, 08:58 AM
ORIGINAL: surfaceone

Hey,

Is it just me, or are there fewer and fewer threads in this Marble forum? I have noticed this a couple times, but said nothing. Are the threads evaporating right out'ta here, or what?

We all voted and got this new forum installed, but we've not loaded it up with goodies yet. Are the older threads making a break for it while we're sleeping or looking the other way?

http://www.antiquephotographics.com/images/ForSale/Actors/act85.jpg



Old threads are still here. Is your display setting set to more than thirty days?

ajohn
10-23-2010, 02:03 PM
Well I sure learned alot! Thanks road dog,LC.Thanks for posting Steve.Now I really have to dig through my stuff to find all my marbles.