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Flaschenjager
03-02-2004, 02:02 AM
Hey everyone,
Eddie, crozet86, picked this up, from the front porch, of a store site, we searched the other day here in Virginia. The color is hard to describe. I would called it a berry or grape color. It seems to be a type of turn mold. It is very crude. The concave bottom resembles a sand pontil with a nipple in it's center. I'm not even sure if this is possible. I'm just describing what it looks like. The embossing seems to be: M.A. WOLFF // FRANKFURT A/M. My wife, who is German, translated (the city) Frankfurt --- A/M = on the Maine river. So this tells the bottles origin, can anyone help with the company or product? Thanks in advance.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/115/Yv66240.jpg

Flaschenjager
03-02-2004, 02:05 AM
Here's a full look at it.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/115/Ge95946.jpg

Harry Pristis
03-02-2004, 02:52 AM
What an interesting bottle, Meech! I had never seen an embossed "hoch" (=tall) wine, though I have seen some colorful bottles.

To turn this bottle in the mold, the bottle-maker would have to partially open the mold. He would have to drop the "post bottom" out of the mold to avoid smearing the embossing. Could happen.

I don't think this bottle is pontil-scarred because the central nipple is not affected, but I have just a pic to go on.

Your German-speaking wife may be able to find some history on this vintner in the Frankfurt am Maine city directories. Let us know what you find out.

-----------Harry Pristis

deano313
09-24-2011, 08:55 PM
I have this same bottle and was wondering if anyone can tell me what one may be worth. I also have a blue Andrew Ertle massillon, Oh glass soda/beer bottle, any info or help with estimate would be greatly appreciated.

Deano

cyberdigger
09-24-2011, 09:02 PM
Wow, that's an old thread! [8D]

Base embossing is definitely not usual on them, so that should increase the value. Being European, well, that will decrease the value..
..unless you find a collector who is looking for that sorta thing.. am I rambling? sorry.. unembossed ones are under $10 most of the time..

aafm
02-12-2012, 11:05 PM
Hi Flaschenkager!
Wanderfull! It reminds me a base i find. A bottle made in Hungary in the 1800´s. Not sure the date.

aafm
02-12-2012, 11:06 PM
FRANKFURT A/M. My wife, who is German, translated (the city) Frankfurt --- A/M = on the Maine river. So this tells the bottles origin, can anyone help with the company or product? Thanks in advance.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/115/Yv66240.jpg
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My wife, who is German, translated

cyberdigger
02-12-2012, 11:10 PM
The contents would have been sweet white wine..

AntiqueMeds
02-12-2012, 11:14 PM
that is one prehistoric thread you dug up there Dr Leakey.

I have heard there were turn molds with rotating base plates. I havent seen a USA one yet but it wouldnt surprise me.

aafm
02-12-2012, 11:23 PM
I hope you (and your wife) can help me with the identiffication/ date/ origin of this bottle. I found it some days ago. Its a turn mold, olive green. Maybe 1890´s. The paper label sorprise me very much. There weren´t many drinks with a such label in Germany those years.
Thanks in advance. Alex.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/16177/03996C9389DB44B0AF914929464B8A8B.jpg

aafm
02-13-2012, 09:39 AM
The base is not so interesting than yours. Just pay attention at the sand marks. I think it´s turn mold with rotating base plate. From Germany.
On the right hand ther is a detail of the label. Without a doubt it was made by an artist.
Unluckily there´s no information on the top surface.
Thank you again.

aafm
02-13-2012, 09:43 AM
Base & Detail:

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/16177/B2C97D665B9B419FA15F288317A6D4C0.jpg

aafm
02-13-2012, 10:03 AM
Here´s a close up image of the bottom.

https://www.antique-bottles.net/upfiles/16177/4C5C1CDD6635459E8B7B297320716577.jpg