View Full Version : Philadelphia or Baltimore???

03-21-2012, 07:33 PM
This bottle was dug in Yorkana, Pa (York County) in a turn of the century dump in the early 70's. The only damage was a small flake in the lip. As tumbling was still in its infancy, a friend chose to tumble it with 2 hutches (in an effort to save time I guess and using a new fangled design). One of the hutches broke free apparently smashing this fine example of early Americana (I hope it was cobalt). I've often wondered if this was a Philly product (being 2 hrs away by current transportation) or Baltimore (being 1 hr away). Early rails and canals allow for both to be a possible manufacturer. Just curious.



03-21-2012, 07:35 PM
It is heavily "whittled" though the pictures don't show it that well. Perhaps a good cleaning.


03-21-2012, 07:37 PM
Note the kick up on the previous pic.


03-21-2012, 07:39 PM
The pontil is about 3/8" to 1/2" in length. Wish I took an angle shot.


03-21-2012, 07:57 PM
Here's a shot of the lip.


03-21-2012, 07:58 PM
. . . and another


03-21-2012, 09:30 PM
Yo Jeff,

Are your photos small, and getting smaller?

The old guy wing of A-BN has sent me as a delegate to request Larger Photos all around. Daylight is good too.


That's a horror story on the early days of tumbling. Is it just me (your OGW delegate and sight challenged corespondent), or does that humongous crack have a certain musical quality. [8D]


03-21-2012, 09:36 PM
Yes better pictures please also is the re a blank slugplate on this one?


03-22-2012, 12:46 AM
Sorry OGWs . . . as I sit here with my cheaters on. I've had difficulty in the past due to "files too large" at upload though I think I've remedied that.

Surf . . . you've got a point there with the music note though this one may have a crackly tone.

Chris . . . There is no slugplate or any evidence of embossing

I think the real problem here is poor photos (not to mention poor lighting). I was in a hurry to get to the Baltimore show that weekend. Let's try this again . . .


03-22-2012, 12:47 AM
Other side . . .


03-22-2012, 12:51 AM
Now you get a feel for my photo skills. It's like taking a picture of an ugly chick, no matter how expensive the camera . . .


03-22-2012, 01:50 AM

Its a hard call on where that one was made. The tapered top looks more like some of the tops seen on Baltimore torpedo sodas but not exactly. I can't really tell the color perhaps a window picture in natural light? I'm surprised this one has an open pontil most sodas of this shape are iron pontiled. It doesn't really match up to anything exactly that I have.


03-22-2012, 12:29 PM
It's like taking a picture of an ugly chick, no matter how expensive the camera . . .

It looks like you are using the general setting, your digital camera should a setting for a close up. Use that setting and get close to the bottle. Also use natural light and play around with the flash settings. The flash may change the bottles color appearance, but it can allow you to get the details more in focus (such as the pontil). Natural light and no flash is good for capturing the bottles true color.

03-24-2012, 02:06 PM
Chris - Thanx for the info, sorry for the poor photo. The lip is what made me think Balto, the body seems to resemble Philly.

Div - Thanx for the tips . . . I have found the flash misrepresents the color. It was cloudy that day but that doesn't account for the blur.