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goodman1966
12-02-2014, 04:18 PM
Been doing pretty well with pontils lately, hope this one is pretty good too! Found at a flea market, bought with some others posted in New to the collection forum .[attachment=image(EN).jpg]
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goodman1966
12-02-2014, 04:20 PM
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RED Matthews
12-03-2014, 05:18 PM
Hi and I like it. If your selling let me know. I am intrigued with the twisted off pontil mark.Check my home page shown below, also. RED Matthews <bottlemysteries@yahoo.com>

goodman1966
12-03-2014, 06:34 PM
Thanks Red, I mainly picked it up because the wife likes the sun colored bottles. It being pontiled was a welcomed bonus. The twisted off pontil I have seen before, but usually on more modern or Mexican examples. Thanks for your reply, but it is not for sale at this time.

MuddyMO
12-07-2014, 09:28 AM
That's a neat one, a good find.

I thought the "twisted pontil" was standard across the board with early pressed glass and molded crystal glass?

goodman1966
12-07-2014, 04:25 PM
How would I determine if it's molded or pressed ? It does have very faint mold lines in the neck. It's also very thick any heavy . Mitch

RED Matthews
02-10-2015, 10:10 PM
So, the question About how it was made is a wide range of coverage. Glass items are made in a lot of different processes to get the desired item being made. Bottles for example, have been made by a lot of methods, Automatic Bottle Machines make them in a Blow and Blow Process/ if they have a small opening. They make larger finish jars in the Press and Blow process. In that process the finish is made in the neckring, which houses the guide ring for the top of the finish, and the plunger for the inside distribution of the parison shape that will create the distribution of the jars wall thickness in the final blow on the mold side of the machine process. The outside of the parison is shaped by the cavity in the blank mold that is closed and waiting for the glass gob delivery that is guided into it through a funnel piece that swings away and lets the baffle close the top of the parison chamber and compressed air is blow through holes or holes with valves - to push the gob down over the plunger: shaping the inside of the parison and the finish. ssss Then the plunger pushes up in the glass and shapes the parison. After that is done the plunger is pulled down and the blank mold opens so the neck ring can lift and swing the hot glass up and over into the open mold where the mold will close and hold the glass parison by the transfer bead. The plunger returns to the blank side and a blowhead arm will put a blowhead down over the hanging parison, and blow the hot glass out to the mold and bottom plate surfaces to complete the jar making process. The mold opens and a take-out arm will lift the completed up and - out to a delivery plate for conveyor motions to take the jar to the annealing lehr for annealing the hot glass product. I have slipped by a lot of other details of action - but that gives you something to picture how the machine makes the jar. RED Matthews.

sandchip
02-11-2015, 05:29 AM
Sorry to say, but that bottle is not pontiled.

goodman1966
02-11-2015, 05:00 PM
What would you call it then ? And how was it made ? Any insights you have would be welcome. I haven't found any thing else that looks similar to it. That twisted off glass is kinda, well, weird, interesting, pick one ! Mitch

sandchip
02-12-2015, 05:14 AM
It's simply remnants of where the gooey, caramel-like gather of glass was being twisted around the end of the blowpipe as it was dipped into the pot. It was then snipped off by the apprentice (otherwise, it stretches clear across the room). The batch was either a little on the stiff side that day, or it took just a second or two longer to insert the gather into the mold, and that twist didn't flow out and disappear as it was blown up against the mold. I have a blown salt shaker that shows the same characteristic. If the glass was still soft enough so that a pontil rod could be twisted off, then it wouldn't do a very good job of holding the bottle while the top was finished.