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Hi Embe, it was just a personal observation to encourage more involvement. I am by no means putting the site down, I'm honestly hoping to stimulate discussion and draw more people in. I do agree with you and please understand I had no intention of creating animus. If I remained in the wings and didn't share my thoughts I'd feel uncaring. I do care and that's why I kind of stirred the pot last night. It was not posted to attack members or the site, it was because I was really trying to help. It may seem like I was being tough, on the contrary, I care enough about the site to point out what I see. If I didn't care about AB, which I see can be one of the finest sites for bottle enthusiasts, I'd certainly remain quiet.

I think we're on the same page, I didn't consider you stirring the pot :)
 

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There's a reasoning for your concern. Forum activity is down. For the most part, it's FaceBook where people are active, That gives instant updates-- very portable. Most people only access forums on a physical computer, not a smart phone. Further, the main crowd using forums is Gen X and older. I'm one of the few millennials or post millennials that use forums.
There's plenty of content searchable on the forum from things previously discussed. It's not just our minds that are vast repositories of knowledge. This forum's archives, stretching back 20 years, are also a wealth of knowledge waiting to be uncovered. I prefer the forum-- it's less hectic and has better content than FaceBook. It's also more laid-back and less likely to blow up like social media-- though when I joined here, I came in at the tail-end of the forum wars where there was some major tension. Who knows, maybe FaceBook will also calm down and become peaceful like this forum did!
 

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One of the advantages of a 'forum' type platform is the searchable database it builds up.
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It would appear that since the change that facility to search the whole database appears to have now gone.
For instance, a search using the keyword Bitters only brings up seven results.
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I know I had not put up many threads or replies but now, unless I am missing something,
when I check my previous posts only my last two remain?
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One of the advantages of a 'forum' type platform is the searchable database it builds up.
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It would appear that since the change that facility to search the whole database appears to have now gone.
For instance, a search using the keyword Bitters only brings up seven results.
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I know I had not put up many threads or replies but now, unless I am missing something,
when I check my previous posts only my last two remain?
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:(
That is exactly what I had pointed out yesterday and then also the previous week. Years of database and research has been wiped out.
 

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Forums in general, for me anyway, have changed a lot over the last several years, with many people that were on forums joining in on the Facebook games, yes I follow Facebook but post very little, too many times that I ask a decent question I just get some smart-a**'s comments in return, I just delete the posts and move on, I think that kind of negativity keeps me from posting much anymore, I like to showoff a new piece as much as the next person would want to, regaurdless of rarity or value, if there's a story behind it, I still want to either tell it, or listen to what others have to say about the piece, but still, I just don't post as much as in the past.....:rolleyes:
 

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I think we're on the same page, I didn't consider you stirring the pot :)
Thank you, Embe. I did have a ton of reservations about posting it but I sincerely wanted to help. What's the old idiom, "You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet?"
 

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Forums in general, for me anyway, have changed a lot over the last several years, with many people that were on forums joining in on the Facebook games, yes I follow Facebook but post very little, too many times that I ask a decent question I just get some smart-a**'s comments in return, I just delete the posts and move on, I think that kind of negativity keeps me from posting much anymore, I like to showoff a new piece as much as the next person would want to, regaurdless of rarity or value, if there's a story behind it, I still want to either tell it, or listen to what others have to say about the piece, but still, I just don't post as much as in the past.....:rolleyes:
Exactly what I was reaching for, RoyalRuby! I foresee this site could be one of the best with a little investment. There are a ton of knowledgable people on this site and think they should lead some discussion to open up more interest... that's all. I don't speak for everyone, but I love to learn everything I can about the hobby.
 

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I have to watch what I say because admin deletes my comments. But with the new changes made, search results only go back to 2018. Try it out and see.
See, that's sad. Other than attacks, profanity, inappropriate content, irrelevant, etc., we should be able to disagree respectfully and present our qualified information to back it up. However, to become aggressive or demeaning should be deleted.
 

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See, that's sad. Other than attacks, profanity, inappropriate content, irrelevant, etc., we should be able to disagree respectfully and present our qualified information to back it up. However, to become aggressive or demeaning should be deleted.

That used to go on here in the old blue page days and I never could understand it. No telling how many folks were run off back then as well. I understand that some folks may not mean things the way it appears, but that's a real danger with the written word, where one's inflection, expression and intent can be extremely difficult, if not impossible to interpret. That's why I take great care in making sure that what I write hopefully cannot be taken in such a way that one's feelings might get hurt. Unfortunately, some folks just don't give a damn. There was one individual way back when who had no problem name calling, using profanity, even GD and for some inexplicable reason, he was seen as some kind of hero by many members. Go figure. A little kindness and humility go a long way, but maybe I'm just an old dinosaur.
 

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That used to go on here in the old blue page days and I never could understand it. No telling how many folks were run off back then as well. I understand that some folks may not mean things the way it appears, but that's a real danger with the written word, where one's inflection, expression and intent can be extremely difficult, if not impossible to interpret. That's why I take great care in making sure that what I write hopefully cannot be taken in such a way that one's feelings might get hurt. Unfortunately, some folks just don't give a damn. There was one individual way back when who had no problem name calling, using profanity, even GD and for some inexplicable reason, he was seen as some kind of hero by many members. Go figure. A little kindness and humility go a long way, but maybe I'm just an old dinosaur.
Well said, Sandchip. Speaking for myself, what I know about bottles I can fit into a thimble compared to many others. I love talking about them and sharing what little I know. We all share the same enthusiasm for bottle collecting, by whatever means we come across them, and this is where the most knowledgable in the field can be invaluable. To me, it's not a contest of who knows more as it is a forum for sharing and learning. We should all accept members at every level of bottle collecting, from entry collectors to the highly knowledgeable.
 

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