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Here is a bottle I had for some time never posted the bottle but it did make some threads due to a holder I twisted from wire for it. It is, like I said a torpedo bottle. Patented by William F. Hamilton in 1809. It is loaded with bubbles and character. Hope you enjoy.
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Rob... I hate to tell you this that bottle is not from the early 1830's. It is from the 1870's I have dug a number of them in Savannah Ga. If you want I can post one for you !
 
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Definitely a nice bottle! I agree though, it's not from anywhere near the 1830s.
 

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Rob... I hate to tell you this that bottle is not from the early 1830's. It is from the 1870's I have dug a number of them in Savannah Ga. If you want I can post one for you !
Please do. I said 1830's because this bottle embossed Oxford Street, 51 Berners street was used from 1831 until 1895. Robert, how can you tell if the Schweppes torpedo was made in the 1830's and not the 1890's or for that matter the 1870's as you mentioned. Is it the size, font or the crudness of the glass that gives it away? Thanks again.
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Please do. I said 1830's because this bottle embossed Oxford Street, 51 Berners street was used from 1831 until 1895. Robert, how can you tell if the Schweppes torpedo was made in the 1830's and not the 1890's or for that matter the 1870's as you mentioned. Is it the size, font or the crudness of the glass that gives it away? Thanks again.
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The early-mid 19th century ones have a distinctly cruder look to them. More along the lines of this one:
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I believe they would have pontils as well though not sure if that's true in all cases, UK bottles aren't my specialty, the turn of the century ones just show up in Canada a lot.

Yours initially struck me as a bit more recent than the 1870s but I'm not sure, I believe they did continue to be used into the 1890s in that shape before being switched to the ones shaped like actual torpedoes, but I'm not totally sure when that switch-over happened.
 

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So there are different variations of the Oxford street, 51 Berners street bottle?
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The early-mid 19th century ones have a distinctly cruder look to them. More along the lines of this one:
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I believe they would have pontils as well though not sure if that's true in all cases, UK bottles aren't my specialty, the turn of the century ones just show up in Canada a lot.

Yours initially struck me as a bit more recent than the 1870s but I'm not sure, I believe they did continue to be used into the 1890s in that shape before being switched to the ones shaped like actual torpedoes, but I'm not totally sure when that switch-over happened.
Now that one is 1795-1831. The one with 79 Margaret Street embossed. Not the one I have buddy. Oh well.
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The early-mid 19th century ones have a distinctly cruder look to them. More along the lines of this one:
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I believe they would have pontils as well though not sure if that's true in all cases, UK bottles aren't my specialty, the turn of the century ones just show up in Canada a lot.

Yours initially struck me as a bit more recent than the 1870s but I'm not sure, I believe they did continue to be used into the 1890s in that shape before being switched to the ones shaped like actual torpedoes, but I'm not totally sure when that switch-over happened.
They moved to 51 Berners street in 1832
Is that one pontiled? Beautiful bottle. The older 79 Margaret Street embossed one like in your picture was used until 1831. So the older ones like I have with the Oxford, 51 Berners street address has earlier pontil marks. I saw one but not the same as mine. It was the earlier 79 Margaret Street one. Thanks for the input. Not really into English bottles but always wanted a torpedo bottle. I also want to get a codd torpedo bottle. They are a little pricey @ $200+.
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Codd/ torpedo hybrid. How cool is that! Crummy image i took of a computer screen.
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There are many Schweppes variations and i have many. Yours is the latest probably 1880;s to the 1900;s. The earliest are rolled and chisel lip varieties and bring serious money. your torpedo is in the 25 plus range. They are very common in the torpedo/hamilton world.
 

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A photo of two different soda bottles the top is Irish and the bottom one is English. The Irish soda I dug from and 1870's trash pit. The English soda I dug from and 1880s oyster shell pit both bottles were dug in downtown Savannah Ga. I have several others including Schweppes that are packed away in boxes and I don't feel like looking for them right now.
 

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