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No it is not a turn mold bottle
In the picture I sent the one on the right is a turn mold bottle, no seam. The darker one on the right is blown in a mold, lip is applied. I have found and dug alot. All are slicks. I saw windows in Fort Ticonderoga that were made up of turn mold bottle bottoms. It was very neat. I wish I had a picture. I don't have enough yet but I find them often enough. One day maybe.
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Bobby you are right this is a turn mold bottle the seam all the way to the top Do think a 1930 or i940
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If it does not have any side seam it is not a turn mold bottle.
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I believe they are wine bottles not champagne. The kick up was for impurities in wine to settle. Maybe a wives tale. Not sure how old because wine bottle are not my forte. I believe they used this type of bottle later on in other countries. I think I may need help with this one. Hope I helped a little.
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Turning a bottle in a mold obliterates side seams. I can't recall ever seeing a French wine bottle with side seams. Terry's bottle appears to be a French champagne which must be a turn-mold bottle to be consistent with the form.

There is a subtle difference between the forms of champagne and burgundy bottles, but all these bottle forms are turn-molds.

Sediment trap is a collector myth. The kick-up began as a way to put a flat bottom rim on a free-blown bottle. The kick-up is retained in these French traditional forms, even though it no longer has any function. On early wine bottles, an exaggerated kick-up offered the bonus of keeping finger away from sharp glass pontil scars.

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Harry, I am enthralled over your knowledge and explanation. I have a Hock wine bottle "Carmel Oriental " with Hebrew embossment.
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I believe they are wine bottles not champagne. The kick up was for impurities in wine to settle. Maybe a wives tale. Not sure how old because wine bottle are not my forte. I believe they used this type of bottle later on in other countries. I think I may need help with this one. Hope I helped a little.
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Turning a bottle in a mold obliterates side seams. I can't recall ever seeing a French wine bottle with side seams. Terry's bottle appears to be a French champagne which must be a turn-mold bottle to be consistent with the form.

There is a subtle difference between the forms of champagne and burgundy bottles, but all these bottle forms are turn-molds.

Sediment trap is a collector myth. The kick-up began as a way to put a flat bottom rim on a free-blown bottle. The kick-up is retained in these French traditional forms, even though it no longer has any function. On early wine bottles, an exaggerated kick-up offered the bonus of keeping finger away from sharp glass pontil scars.

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Turning a bottle in a mold obliterates side seams. I can't recall ever seeing a French wine bottle with side seams. Terry's bottle appears to be a French champagne which must be a turn-mold bottle to be consistent with the form.

There is a subtle difference between the forms of champagne and burgundy bottles, but all these bottle forms are turn-molds.

Sediment trap is a collector myth. The kick-up began as a way to put a flat bottom rim on a free-blown bottle. The kick-up is retained in these French traditional forms, even though it no longer has any function. On early wine bottles, an exaggerated kick-up offered the bonus of keeping finger away from sharp glass pontil scars.

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Turning a bottle in a mold obliterates side seams. I can't recall ever seeing a French wine bottle with side seams. Terry's bottle appears to be a French champagne which must be a turn-mold bottle to be consistent with the form.

There is a subtle difference between the forms of champagne and burgundy bottles, but all these bottle forms are turn-molds.

Sediment trap is a collector myth. The kick-up began as a way to put a flat bottom rim on a free-blown bottle. The kick-up is retained in these French traditional forms, even though it no longer has any function. On early wine bottles, an exaggerated kick-up offered the bonus of keeping finger away from sharp glass pontil scars.

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thank for info
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