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epgorge
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Here is a great story about a fellow who bought a "scare crow" that turned out to be the ships figural on the prow. It was of a bust of Jenny Lind (1820-1887). She was the equivalent to the Beatles during her era as a swedish singing star. There werre six ships named after her. Good, enjoyable reading here...
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:ajjBqFWDs1AJ:www.scandinavica.com/culture/history/jenny_lind.htm+jenny+lind+eagle&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
Here is another of the marketing of her bust figurals on literally everything.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache
A56VWpESJUJ:www.eraoftheclipperships.com/nightingale.html+jenny+lind+eagle&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:ajjBqFWDs1AJ:www.scandinavica.com/culture/history/jenny_lind.htm+jenny+lind+eagle&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us
Here is another of the marketing of her bust figurals on literally everything.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache
A56VWpESJUJ:www.eraoftheclipperships.com/nightingale.html+jenny+lind+eagle&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=usearlyglass
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Joel,
I haven't looked up your Pikes Peak, but it is real. It is most likely a common one in aqua, probably $100 or so. The other flasks are repros. A good place to start when dealing with flasks is the "American Bottles & Flasks and their Ancestry" book from Helen McKearin and Kenneth Wilson. It is the most comprehensive guide for flasks and has great information on the glasshouses, techniques and characteristics. Anyways, there is a chapter on reproductions as well. Your Jenny Lind is a reproduction of the GI-107 and your Eagle Grapes is a reproduction of the GII-55. They are probably Clevenger pieces, possibly Czechoslavakian (spelling?)... well, I hope that helps.
Mike
I haven't looked up your Pikes Peak, but it is real. It is most likely a common one in aqua, probably $100 or so. The other flasks are repros. A good place to start when dealing with flasks is the "American Bottles & Flasks and their Ancestry" book from Helen McKearin and Kenneth Wilson. It is the most comprehensive guide for flasks and has great information on the glasshouses, techniques and characteristics. Anyways, there is a chapter on reproductions as well. Your Jenny Lind is a reproduction of the GI-107 and your Eagle Grapes is a reproduction of the GII-55. They are probably Clevenger pieces, possibly Czechoslavakian (spelling?)... well, I hope that helps.
Mike
cowseatmaize
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In the calabash they all had a glass house on the reverse, I'm not sure what your asking. Repro or not the Jenny is about 75 yrs old and almost an antique in the US.
http://www.bottlebooks.com/clevenge.htm
http://www.bottlebooks.com/reproduc.htm
Note on this one the Pikes Peak. It couldn't fool very many people.
http://www.bottlebooks.com/Repros/More%20Repos/more_reproductions.htm
epgorge
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That is because I screwed up the question.
I meant the Pikes Peak when I said Jenny Lind.
I am interested in collecting CB's now. I sold a beauty of a chestnut flask of theirs for $17 on the bay. I saw a variation of it in your link you provided. Thanks! [
]Now I wish I had kept it.
I like the Jenny Lind, now that I have it. Researching it here on the forum, it looks like it was a chec made CB. Did CB contract with that the Chec's way back then?
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The Pike's Peak has a "post bottom mold seam"...( what I used ta call a "hinge mold seam", before I got eddicated on the BLM Historic Bottle Site...
http://www.sha.org/bottle/bases.htm[/align] [/align]Clevenger Bros didn't collaborate with the Czechs ta make Jenny Linds...The Czechs made their own repRo ( usually seen with an extra-long neck), and Clevenger Bros made another type...[/align] [/align] [/align]
http://www.sha.org/bottle/bases.htm[/align] [/align]Clevenger Bros didn't collaborate with the Czechs ta make Jenny Linds...The Czechs made their own repRo ( usually seen with an extra-long neck), and Clevenger Bros made another type...[/align] [/align] [/align]
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The Eagle/Grapes flask is Clevenger....not sure about the Jenny....Could be Clevenger or Czech...Have ta examine "hands on" to tell for sure or compare with a known Clevenger Jenny.
tigue710
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very nice score on the pikes peak, it is a Mckearin GXI-7 - attributed to Pittsburgh The base is a "key mold" of which there are a few different types. One type is notched, the other rounded. A key mold is similar to a hingmold and in fact worked the same way, (with two pieces hinged at the bottom), except the key mold was notched in the center, to help the mold fit better and to create a smoother base to help the bottle stand better. The rounded key mold is very similar to a post mold but on close inspection you will be able to follow the mold line across the bottle going halfway around the circle and over to the other side.
the lip I'd bet is juat an imperfection...
The other two bottles are both repros, the wash. is a Clevenger and the Jenny Lind is most likely a Chec.
the lip I'd bet is juat an imperfection...
The other two bottles are both repros, the wash. is a Clevenger and the Jenny Lind is most likely a Chec.
tigue710
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here are the two types of key mold.
The first leaves a circular depression in the base like your pikes peak, and like a post mold, the difference being the the post mold will have a mold line the entire circumference of the circle.
The second you will see the notched mold line, and leaves a flat base with no depression, most of the time. Most of these notched types of keymolds are from the open pontil era so often the pontil covers the mold lines.
The first leaves a circular depression in the base like your pikes peak, and like a post mold, the difference being the the post mold will have a mold line the entire circumference of the circle.
The second you will see the notched mold line, and leaves a flat base with no depression, most of the time. Most of these notched types of keymolds are from the open pontil era so often the pontil covers the mold lines.
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