TWO BARREL FIGURAL BOTTLES

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Harry Pristis

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What do you suppose these stout little barrel figural bottles were used for?

Both have a smooth base, an applied and tooled lip, and were blown in a two-piece mold (or "mould" in the case of the bottle on the right).

I got the one on the right from a British digger who told me he dug it at Lucy's tip at Oxford.

Both are very dark glass. The Oxford bottle is a blackish emerald-green, and the other is that smokey olive-amber color you see in Belgian black glass (from a reducing coal furnace, I believe).

I have no information on the barrel bottle on the left; however, the base is embossed with "A" / "9" on opposing sides of the base near the edge.

I have always assumed that these two barrels were mustard jars, and I have inset a pic of the two with a typical French mustard barrel. Recently, I saw a suggestion that these are snuff bottles -- I cannot find that reference now.

Anyone have any ideas about these interesting little bottles?

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I have always beleived that these jars held Meat Paste however I have not seen one with a lable.
They could also have been a generic jar and held a number of things.
 

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Thanks for the opinions, mates.

I have been searching for the half-remembered reference to these bottles as holding snuff, but cannot find it.

I did find the bottle on the left listed in Betty Zumwalt's book, KETCHUP-PICKLES-SAUCES, 19TH Century Food in Glass. On page 448 she figures this bottle (and a similar form), and describes them as "mustard barrels."

It would be great if someone had one with a label.

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In paging through Betty Zumwalt's book this week, looking for an answer to someone else's question, I found the "half-remembered reference" to a snuff bottle.

Zumwalt figures a black-glass figural barrel similar to mine, but with faint embossing. She reads the embossing as:
A. COBBETT & SON
18
PALL MALL

It's chancy to second-guess Zumwalt who apparently had the bottle in hand, but there are 26 CORBETTs listed in my local phone directory and zero COBBETTs.

Does this reference mean anything to anyone on the forum?

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Harry found a little something here that may help in search,
Shaker/ Cough Syrup/No/1 Canterbury . N.H.
Bottle contained Corbetts Shaker compound
Concentrated syrup or Sarsaparilla. The product
was formulated by Doctor Thomas Corbett in the
1820's and given to the Shaker Society.
In 1880 the brand had been on the market over
50 yrs (Singer 1982) Adver 1910
Aqua oval embossed panel
Not yours but may help to run it down
I checked three other Shaker Products
None match yours
 

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Maybe this link will shed some light on the subject.

http://www.thevictualler.com/morel/

It seems this company has been around for awhile.

http://www.thevictualler.com/morel/about.html

http://www.londonancestor.com/comm/westminster.htm

ITALIAN WAREHOUSEMEN - *+Cobbett & Son, 18, Pall Mall. *Crosse & Blackwell, 20 Soho-sq. - +Hedges & Butler, 155, Regent-st. - * Howis & Mason, 216, Piccadilly.
 

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Thank you, David and Woody . . .

Boy! Was I wrong about the spelling of COBBETT! The Cobbetts trace their ancestry back to 1332 in England!

I have written to the Cobbett Study Group (!) asking for more info on the Cobbett & Son family business.

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I have this from Pete Cobbett of the Cobbett Study Group (with some editing):

Re> Arthur Cobbett
occupation: APPRENTICED TO CHARLES BARRON AS AN ITALIAN WAREHOUSE AND TEA AND WINE MERCHANT, ON BARRON'S DEATH THE BUSINESS WAS PASSED ON TO ARTHUR COBBETT WHO OPERATED AT 18 TO 19 PALL MALL LONDON.
COBBETT & SON. PURVEYOR OF OIL TO HER MAJESTY AND HRH PRINCE OF WALES.

ITALIAN AND FOREIGN WAREHOUSE MAN. FINALLY SOLD TO MOREL BROTHER FOR £70,000 LONDON

This all happened between 1861 to 1881. By 1891 even his son was listed as a retired Wine merchant.

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This is not hard evidence for the use of these little barrel figurals, though it seems to me less likely now that they were used for snuff. Cobbett & Son (and later Morel Brothers/Cobbett&Son) operated as fine food importers.

That is not conclusive that they did not also import snuff, but it seems more likely that these bottles contained some delicacy, such as imported mustard.

I pass this on as a matter of curiosity.

----Harry Pristis
 

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