German Half post bottle?

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Hi I am new to your forum and I have a question reguarding a bottle that I have. Got lost reading so many great threads with information but still a little lost trying to i.d this one. I don't have it here at my house at the moment so I will really be guessing at measurements but here goes...it is probably about 9" in H. The neck is probably 3-3.5" in length. I have photos I took a couple days ago but I hope I can get them posted correctly.
TIA for any information you might have
Theresa
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Honestly I've never seen anything quite like it but I can tell you It's pretty darn old - I would guess late 18th to early 19th century, and you're probably right about it being European in origin. There are a lot of guys here on the forum who know more than I so I hope to see some more posts on this thread. Mainly I just wanted to say Nice bottle - very crude and unique and the color is beautiful. Welcome to the forum!
 

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Hi thanks for the Welcome to the board! I'm a glass collector and by instinct and experience I thought it was just so unusual. Mostly love the color and the wavy lines on the glass sides. I posted this on the Antiques board on ebay as I do sell there and the comments I got were that it was very old or very new. You all know the feel from glass and this doesn't have any newness "feel" to it. lol I am going to pick it up this afternoon to bring it back to my house for accurate measurements so that may help to determine what it was used for? the neck I can say is very very narrow....I can't get my pinky inside it much further than the first say 1/2" of the top of it. The body is of course 4 sided but it's very stout. Probably measures a good 5" wide on each side and I'm guessing that it's that plus or minus a inch in H on the sides. I was thinking it must have originally held something that needed to poured very slowly or in small quantity?
Thanks for the comments so far. I am really curious about this bottle.

Theresa
 

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Remember, this is one guy's opinion. Explore farther.

It is definitely freeblown and made in the "German Half Post" style but in my opinion is contemporary, i.e. Not Old. I have seen a number of similar items currently for sale in stores such as Pier One and from a short distance look old. You mention a "feel" and I agree totally, old glass has a certain feel. Since I can not feel it I can't make comment on that. However, that is not the only clue. The color is wrong, the pontil is wrong, the neck is wrong, the collar is wrong. I believe you will be able to find very similar, if not identical items for sale that were manufactured in Taiwan or China or some such place. Any decent glass blower can produce such items.

That being said, I hope I am dead wrong. Mostly I am saying to examine it with care and get several opinions from experienced bottle collectors. Look for Contemporary sources that sell such items, home decorator stores, glass ware sales, import shops, etc. Good Luck
 

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Correct Measurements are as follows:

8.75" from top to bottom

Two sides of the body measure 4" in W and have protruding areas in the center of the glass that bulge out slightly. *I can feel it and see it* vertical waves? for lack of the term in the glass are much more pronounced on these two sides. Length is 5.25"

Other two sides measure wider at 4.25" and have a slight bump but not nearly as apparent as the other two sides. Still has the vertical waves but not as pronounces as the other two sides.

The top opening measures just 5/8" but you can see when you look down the neck that it narrows. Approx 1.5" down the neck my pinky can go no further so I I measured the tip of my finger at 1/2" so I believe that 1.5" down the neck is narrower that 1/2". Hope that makes sense! lol

Bottom base measures 4" X 4.25"

OK hope that helps.....thanks in advance
Theresa
 

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Jim color in photo is diff. than color in person I have auto flash and it makes it seem "brighter" in the images. Let me see if I can work on getting a photo with exact coloration this has.
I'm no expert on bottles that is a certainty. lol I have however never seen anything like that at Pier One.
OFF to work on photo hopefully without flash. (new camera trying to figure out settings)

Theresa
 

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I'm not aware of anyone reproducing anything in the german half post method, which this bottle sure looks like it is. I'm guessing european made case bottle of some sort.

Has anyone seen anything repro half post method? It isn't from pier one that I know of, I don't know of them selling anything with an actual pontil.

Jim G
 

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saratogadriver me either and would they go to the trouble of tooling the tops for something they sell for 8 bucks at Pier 1?
I don't know.....seriously I don't but Pier One is down the street from me and I go in there alot. Never have I seen anything there with these methods of manufacture. But then again...I've got little little knowledge about bottles. ARt glass YES! :)

Theresa
 

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After some consideration and a second look at the photos, I must admit there are some signs that this might be new "art glass" Jim said the color - yes this appears an unusual color for early glass, olive green would be more appropriate. (perhaps different photos might help) The pontil is reminiscent of many art glass pieces i've seen, and also there is the lack of base wear, and no visible seeds or potstones, which suggests new, high quality glass from a new, high-tech furnace. The topic is certainly up for debate..........[8|]
 

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