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"Wednesday, March 02, 2011
Fake Watkins tooth powder bottles discovered during collecting club's annual convention
Posted by Antique Trader Staff


WINONA, Minn. — Though members of the Watkins Collectors Club met for an expected full day of customary convention activities Aug. 21, 2010, a pall was cast over the event when it was discovered that three club members had purchased similar “faked†Watkins tooth powder bottles. The members independently purchased four bottles with two different labels.

The first buyer bought two bottles, each with a different label from a dealer specializing in advertising items in September 2009 at the The Great Geauga Racetrack Antique Show in Burton, Ohio. One bottle was amber glass and the other was clear glass. Both bottles featured blackened cords and contained a fine, white powder. The dealer reported that he had obtained them from the collection of bottles and tins amassed by a retired dentist.

A third bottle was bought January 2010 at an antique show in Punta Gordo, Fla. Its label was an exact duplicate of one of those bought in September 2009, right down to the frayed and worn marks, but affixed to a different colored glass bottle.

A fourth bottle was bought May 14, 2010, at the Springfield, Ohio, Extravaganza Show. Its label matches one of the others on yet another shape of bottle.

At the August convention, all four bottles were placed together and the experienced collectors in the club determined them to be ‘fake’ due to the following observations:
the same minor defects on one label were also on the other identical label.
the same labels were on different-colored and different-sized glass bottles
all four corks have the same black color suggestive of aging
none of the experienced collectors have ever seen bottles of this type in any almanac or print material from the company
bottle types were not consistent with the time period of the label.
At the Springfield, Ohio, Extravaganza, on Sep. 17, 2010, two of the three buyers met with the dealers to share a copy of the picture showing the four bottles along with a copy of a page from the 1913 Watkins Almanac that pictures one of the labels on a tooth powder tin, not bottle. The members noted there was a tooth powder tin for sale in a case that had the same label as one of the alleged faked bottles. The dealer reported that the tin was consigned by the retired dentist who was out of the country on a vacation. They agreed with our concerns and indicated they would consult with the retired dentist as soon as they could.

The dealer called the member back Oct. 8 to report that the retired dentist indicated he bought the bottles at a flea market somewhere in New York and that he was willing to take them back and refund the money. The issue has not yet been resolved.

The Watkins Collectors Club ask that anyone who may have bought a Watkins tooth powder bottle in the last several years to please contact them with your experience. Contact newsletter editor Marsha Watkins or call 614-873-1656." From.
 

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Amazing! there is a Watkins club??? [:D]
People will collect anything.

Seems like someone got hold of old labels and put them on various slicks.
The corks seem very suspicious.

The wear on the labels is a bit odd too. All the tears show white paper like they are all recent.
 

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Thanks Gunth! I guess anything is possible these days.[:eek:]
I purchased an old pontil sauce bottle with label last year as I have dug tons of them the past few years. The label was a fake too but I guess I should have
known that. [:(]

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did u no the tooth brush was invented in oildale other wise it would be called a teeth brush.
 

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I can remember when I was a young lad , that my great Uncle sold Watkins products , always had the back seat of his old car full of it , carried a big suitcase like thing that when you opened it up, a lot or all of the products avaiable was shelved in it .
 

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ORIGINAL: GuntherHess

I purchased an old pontil sauce bottle with label last year as I have dug tons of them the past few years. The label was a fake

can you post a photo?

Hi Gunth
this is the guy!


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Interesting. Would you say its a fake label or a real label on the wrong bottle?
The label doesnt seem quite as old as the bottle.
It seems like more of a wide mouth preserve bottle...not really nessisary for a fig syrup?
 

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The paper looks too new and is attached quite firmly.



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