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    Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    Well, I'm back with another bottle--well two and a candle holder but those aren't what I'm here about. Of course, now I could really use some root beer. Shame this thing is empty. But! I have some questions.
    Firstly! I'll give you the information on it. What I call panel one of four says, "HIRES / HOUSEHOLD EXTRACT" Panel two says, "FOR MAKING / ROOTBEER / AT HOME" Third panel says, "MANUFACTURED BY / THE CHARLES E. HIRES CO." and panel four, "PHILADELPHIA, PA. / U.S.A." It is exactly as I see it, every letter and piece of punctuation or lack thereof. We can tell what it is, what it's for. It's light aqua, seam goes over the lip. Three rings on the bottom, no embossing. Oddly, the seam vanishes on the body, not on the neck, which amused me--hardly touches the shoulder. I'd call the body a rounded rectangular block. It'd have been corked, from what my research tells me. But what my research doesn't tell me is my main question which we will now enter.
    Item of agenda two: How old is it, does anyone know?
    Part three: Why does HIRES' HOUSEHOLD EXTRACTS lack the apostrophe to place ownership on the product? It's shown only as HIRES unless that part wore away like the T in THE CHARLES E. HIRES CO. I can be a grammar Nazi, so forgive me that. I try to avoid it, but it bothers me and makes me like it more.
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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    More pictures of today's bottles! Got this one for a grand total of one quarter!
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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    That one probably dates to the early 1900's. The lack of apostrophe is probably because it just didn't show up, as there seems to be a space for it. But you can't put too much weight on the grammatical correctness of bottles, often mold engravers weren't that great at spelling. I know of a hutchinson from my home province with both the bottlers' names and the town misspelled. Sadly I don't own it, though I do own a med with Vancouver spelled "Vancover". Unfortunately your other bottle is a reproduction from the seventies, only worth about a dollar. But sounds like you probably didn't pay much for it!

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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    Awesome. I have a book that says Appletons' Fifth Reader (1880s school-book.) Problem is, it's in two places. In three places it just says Appleton and such, not in plural like a family business. So, they put the apostrophe in the wrong place. And it's a book on teaching reading and grammar. I hope it was correct that way back then, otherwise...
    Your bottle and the other must be amusing to see; the incorrect spelling of both name and town would make me laugh. Or just the town, they should have got it right, but alas, they did not.
    I paid a dollar for the little bottle (at a thrift shop today,) thinking it was another Fantasy Bottle like my other bitters bottle. It looks nice with it. I had just posted a question on it in another part of the chat, on the same page as my other bitters bottle reproduction. Thank you for answering the question though.And a special thanks for answering the question on my Hires bottle. I love root beer. One of the better drinks around in terms of soda pop. I asked the lady at the yard sale, "Do you have any vintage or antique bottles I could look at?" she told me "I'll got get them from the corner of the basement," then returned saying, "I have one I think you'll love. It's a Hires root beer extract." And yep! She tried selling me a hardly embossed milk bottle. But it would have been ACL or had a paper label on its empty sides. So, I passed on it. That and a glass block bank.
    Still, any idea as what decade it was made and why the seam is on the neck and lip but not the sides? It must do with how it was embossed, but it's an odd little thing right there--in my mind. And my mom just walked in asking, "Any idea on it's value?" So answer me that if anyone knows, please.

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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    Ha ha, I'm pretty sure that was not correct back then. Looks like the quality of educational materials hasn't deteriorated as much as I thought, they were always terrible! Unless it was published by Appleton & Appleton, but that seems like a bit of a stretch. Though I guess you never know, it could have changed. I've never understood why typos didn't get rejected. I guess it must have been a buyer beware sort of situation, but something that egregiously wrong seems like it would be hard to insist on payment for. Was the milk embossed with a dairy or just contents or something like that? I'll buy a milk if it's local no matter what it's embossed if it's cheap enough. As for what year it was made, it'd probably be around 1900-1920 or so. I only know the date range because I have an an 1890's-ish version with a smaller mouth and an ABM version of yours, so yours is on the late end of the tooled lip period (if it is a tooled lip, that is, if it's ABM it's probably 1910-1925 or so). Unfortunately not worth much, I got mine for a dollar at a show, they're probably worth maximum five or so, unless you get lucky. I'm not sure what you mean about the seam, could you post a close-up?

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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    your hires was made 1910 to 1920 or so,worth very little,and part three of your question? who cares.

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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    Canadian Bottles, the seam is on the neck and lip, but vanishes when it touches the shoulder. I'll go take pictures of it now. So, the next part of this post won't be typed for several minutes. I'll also show it was just Appleton and not Appleton and Appleton--D. Appleton and Company, though. I asked my teacher on it and he said it didn't effect the fact it's wrong. As for the milk, I don't recall what it said. It was shaped like my Hires, but the embossing was all at the base, leaving room for a label of sorts. Not much, I quickly passed it up. I recall it told me its size, but that's about all. Too big and plain for my collection. Forgive me if you cannot see the seam, my camera isn't professional. Sun Runner, part three of my question series matters to me. So, I Care.

    Thanks for the help you all. [:D] No matter how new it is, I love the color and embossing.
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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    Here's the book, Canadian Bottles.
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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    More pictures. It's not nearly my favrite book in the collection, but it has lovely photographs. This one's of a ship being wrecked in a storm.
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    Re: Not exactly a soda-pop bottle per se, but....

    Well, hello Robert. I enjoyed your posting and have an interest in the glass bank, I have a half dozen of them and some with money in them that I can't shake out. Oh well. The bottle with seams missing is interesting - obviously they weren't removed by turning in the mold. I am putting together individual bottle write ups that I am planning to add to my home page material. I need to get back into taking pictures and putting them in the wright-ups. I have two bottle collectors that keep hitting on me to put together a book, but I feel that is more than I could handle. Thanks for your participation in the Forum. RED M.



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