Earliest ACL Royal Crown Cola redux

SODAPOPBOB · Oct 6, 2014

GH ~ GI ~ GJ Its right there in front of us, but what do they mean?

squirtbob · Oct 6, 2014

I really think we know GH 1936, GI 1937, GJ 1938. It would really help if we could see the code and the bottles that are GH and GJ.

SODAPOPBOB · Oct 6, 2014

Could it be something as simple and unorthodoxed as some worker guy at the Glenshaw plant saying one day ... "Hey, guys! I know! Since we've been using a G on our bottles for so many years and have already used the G for 1935, and because H follows G, why not start advancing our new date codes with GH"

SODAPOPBOB · Oct 6, 2014

And then about three years later, around 1939, the boss says ... "Whose dumb idea was it to use GH for 1936, GI for 1937, and GJ for 1938? Anyway, it don't matter now who it was. But because I'm the boss around here, from now on we're going to start using single letters and I want all of our new bottles to have a single K for 1939 and that's that!"

SODAPOPBOB · Oct 6, 2014

squirtbob You asked for a picture of a Glenshaw GH bottle. Well, here it is ... [

] https://www.antique-bottles.net/forum/found-a-32oz-Glenshaw-green-bottle-today-m303318.aspx

SODAPOPBOB · Oct 6, 2014

All things considered, I'm going with Bill Lockhart's and Rick Sweeney's findings as stated below in an article published in the Soda Fizz newsletter in 2007. I might continue to search for some of the various Glenshaw bottles and also see what I can find to explain the double letters, but other than that I'm signing off of this thread because this article was written by what I consider to be one of the world's top bottle researchers and I feel that anything I might find on my own will just bring me right back to the same conclusions as stated in this article. Hey, Morb Thanks for providing us with a most interesting topic of discussion. I honestly believe there might be a 1935 Royal Crown Cola ACL bottle out there somewhere, but I don't think anyone has found it yet. Thanks, too, to all of the rest of you who have helped to make this thread a fun and rewarding experience. In the event that any of my comments or methods of research have offended anyone, I apologize for that and hope everyone understands that that's just my nature and way of doing things, which are never ever intended to challenge or upset anyone. Later, alligators Sodapopbob

SODAPOPBOB · Oct 7, 2014

One for the road ... [

]

http://forum.antiquebottles-glass.com/discussion/635/hurricane-sandy-finds-kenneys-bottling-works-bridgeport-ct-/p1

" You were correct with the makers mark identification. Glenshaw Glass Co. I was able to locate the dating code on the lip of the bottle. It is an "H" which tells this bottle was manufactured in 1936!"

SODAPOPBOB · Oct 7, 2014

I was asked by a forum member to clarify a few of my earlier comments regarding the double-letter codes. So out of respect for that individual, and anyone else who might be interested in what I have to say, here goes ...

Based on the available information, and the way in which I interpret it, it is as simple as 1 2 3

1. The double-letter codes are variations of the single-letter codes. Why this occurred I cannot say but there is ample evidence, such as the GH bottle owned by at least one forum member, plus the H bottle I posted a link to, which support this interpretation.

2. When deciphering a double-letter code, the G stands for Glenshaw and the second letter represents the date. For example ...

GH minus the G leaves the H and the H represents 1936
GI minus the G leaves the I and the I represents 1937
GJ minus the G leaves the J and the J represents 1938

3. There is no way that every double-letter code that starts with a G can possibly represent 1935

SODAPOPBOB · Oct 7, 2014

P.S. 4. Not all of the lip-coded Glenshaw bottles are ACLs. Some of them are Non-ACLs (Fully Embossed)

morbious_fod · Oct 7, 2014

SODAPOPBOB said:
P.S. I wonder exactly what Bill Lockhart meant when he said in his article ... "By at least 1932, Glenshaw began embossing a small "G" on the reinforcing ring of the crown finish of its soda bottles. The letters began to advance in 1936, and they became reliable date codes." It sounds to me as if the reliable date codes didn't start until 1936, suggesting that 1935 was not a part of the equation at the time. What do the rest of you think he meant?

"The letters began to advance in 1936", which means that there is an H which appeared in 1936, making 1935 a G.

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